ICYMI, this should warm the cockles of your heart 😉🙂:
"BREAKING: New Merz government orders the pushback of all illegal migrants at the German borders, effectively abolishes asylum as a path into Germany. Eugyppius"
I don't know much about politics in Germany - I know a bit more thanks to Eugyppius - but I suspect this isn't some fundamental change of heart rather a tactic to try to undermine support for AfD
If Germany (the heart of the EU for goodness sake) can do it, why can’t we? As someone said earlier, the convention on refugees is from 1951. How many things from that year are still current? Would you have a fridge or a television made in that year? Times have moved on.
Thorny problem though -- as Rudolph suggested -- with many practical and theoretical issues to deal with.
One of the former being the analogous case of a life-raft having a maximum carrying capacity. Let too many on it then it sinks and everyone drowns.
More theoretically, there's the issue of letting in refugees from "failed states" -- how much responsibility do "first--world" states have to fix those problem, one way or another? Though some have argued that the US is also such a "failed state" ... 😉🙂
Wikipedia: "A failed state is a state that has lost its ability to fulfill fundamental security and development functions, lacking effective control over its territory and borders. Common characteristics of a failed state include a government incapable of tax collection, law enforcement, security assurance, territorial control, political or civil office staffing, and infrastructure maintenance."
But some reason to argue that the "colonial powers" -- France, Germany, England, even the US -- are now reaping what they have sown.
For details and ICYMI, you may wish to read "All the Shah's Men":
Wikipedia: "All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror is a book written by American journalist Stephen Kinzer. The book discusses the 1953 Iranian coup d'état backed by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in which Mohammed Mossadegh, Iran's democratically elected prime minister, was overthrown by Islamists supported by American and British agents (chief among them Kermit Roosevelt) and royalists loyal to Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi."
As for Gaza, the solution the Romans used at Carthage might be the quickest and most effective answer. And as for the fellow who wanted that cervical smear, he ought to be told that some minor surgery would have to be performed to remove some fleshly obstructions, and would he please sign a consent form attesting that he was of age to give consent, was of sound mind or had no mental condition that would preclude consent, and so forth, so that the surgery could go ahead. He'd be relieved to find out that the cervical smear was negative, nothing wrong there...
"But where are these kinds of discussions amongst our political elite class? Have they even ironed out the ‘why’ question as a first step?" George S Patton once said "[i]f evryone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking..." That seems to apply here, as does this quote from an 1857 speech by Frederick Douglass: "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. In the light of these ideas, Negroes will be hunted at the North and held and flogged at the South so long as they submit to those devilish outrages and make no resistance, either moral or physical. Men may not get all they pay for in this world, but they must certainly pay for all they get. If we ever get free from the oppressions and wrongs heaped upon us, we must pay for their removal. We must do this by labor, by suffering, by sacrifice, and if needs be, by our lives and the lives of others."
My old landlady in Kansas City, Missouri, was a survivor of both the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, and Auschwitz, the terminus of many one-way train trips out into the countryside. Jews in Warsaw could not get guns from brick and mortar gun stores, they had to get them from the two-legged kind, in her case using .22 calibre bullets for currency. One Schmeisser machine pistol, a couple of belts of ammo, a couple of hand grenades - and maybe other useful things - for a single bullet, delivered quickly and silently, such a deal!. With what she and others got, they shot up a formation of Waffen SS, survivors shot down as they ran. That was a bit too much for the Übermenschen, and so the Ghetto was leveled with high explosives and incendiaries, delivered by Stuka dive bombers. When she came out of her sub-basement shelter, the rubble stood no more than a meter high and was so hot you'd get burned if you touched it. They made it out to the countryside through the sewers... Fascinating conversation over milk and home made cookies, when I went to go pay the rent. Inventiveness and being backed up against the wall, that made for survivors, just a note...
Nations that do not defend their culture will cease to exist as such. Open borders have facilitated the Surrender to a conquest ideology. Of course talking about rapes is verboten. The conquerors disapprove of such talk. It may cause people to examine their raping ideology. Hide your children. They are fair game.
my own experience with coming to know a few dozen Europeans over the years is that the only one of them that would ever even think of handling a gun moved here and became a citizen. that is, i doubt there are any really willing to anything remotely similar to what happened here in 1776
I really seriously hope it doesn't come to widespread violence (or even limited violence). That would be terrible. I sometimes wonder whether our politicians are deliberately fanning the flames to create that violence so they can step in and 'sort it out' by implementing all sorts of authoritarian measures. A bit conspiratorially-minded to be sure, but it's never easy to figure out what our 'lords and masters' are actually thinking is it?
Apologies for the long comment, but I'm trying to make up for a lot of lost time here.
Rudolph, as much as I enjoy your sense of humor, I haven't had much chance to read most of those people's writings whom I honor. Let me try to make up for my transgression here, at least to some extent.
It's well over time to ask: Who is running the country?
Oh, well, most people probably know.
On the other side of the pond, I've also been concerned that violence might erupt. There are "alt" sites trying to goad people into it, while it will only end in martial law.
It looks like that's part of the globalist plan: creating shortages that will start violence so that the victims will be begging to be saved by those who created the problem: the grabberment...
In Britain, you can end up in prison only for saying what Islam really is... Your cussing is understandable... I'd sure prefer to die than become a Dhimmi under Islamic rule:
And NO, no refugees are welcome from incompatible cultures. In the last thousand years, Europeans have built up much of this world through deaths, sacrifices, and suffering. Would you give away part of your income to a beggar (ouch, a highwayman sounds like a better word) who would never contribute, only take?
By now, it's not about skin color; it's about cultural compatibility. Here, in the US, blacks might be the closest potential allies to whites:
Forcing people to assume absurd statements is part of the shock treatment that stops them from thinking, discussing details, and lowers their remaining self-esteem:
There's definitely a lot to be worried about - and it's always hard to guess at the underlying motivations for some of the crackpot things our 'leaders' do
It is no longer a secret that the plan is to take in so many "guests" that they reach critical mass and overthrow your government. The current powers-that-be think they will still be in charge, but they won't. They will be first in line for the beheadings.
Israel and the Jews were facing annihilation. A genocide. A war they did not want and a war they did not start. They did what they needed to do to survive and to ensure their continued survival. What were they supposed to do? Hand out free bagels?
Have they been rough on the Palestinians? Yeah, they have - but the Palestinians brought it all on themselves in my view.
It's a tragedy, and we can only speculate how history would have been different had the Palestinians chosen the path of peace instead of the path of war and genocide. I suspect we'd have a vibrant and prosperous Palestine now living peacefully with their Jewish neighbours.
on april 9th 1948 members of the jewish resistance against the british attacked and massacred the palestinian village of deir yassin near jerusalem.
it was the first in a long row of massacres against civilian palestinian population.
tantura, kafr qasim, qibya and many more.
immediately after the 1948 war started israel started to level palestinain villages on israeli territory.
more than 500 villages were completely destroyed.
when the fighting had subsided the palestinains that had fled the fighting were forbidden to return to their land and rebuild their homes.
so they became refugees.
but they should have accepted the division by the un, like the jews did!
the jews never did accept the division.
in the division the city of jaffa was to become a palestinain enclave in israel.
the jews started operation hametz and conquered jaffa on the british one day before the independence of israel.
the inhabitants had been forcefully removed, being able only to take what they could carry, and never were allowed to return.
they mostly ended up as refugees in gaza.
in 1896 theodor herzl wrote 'der judenstaat'.
a 34 page pamflet about the need for a jewish state and an outline how that state would be.
he described meticulously how the state would be organised etc.
he also stated where that state should be: in palestine.
in all of those 34 pages he referred to the christians already living in palestine once, but not even once uses the word 'arab' or 'palestinian'
in his mind they no longer did exist in israel.
david ben gurion in the late thirties wrote a letter to his son, in which he made it quite clear that the palestinains were to leave israel, preferably voluntarily.
or else 'they would bespoken to in a different language'..
I have educated myself. Muslims have never let the Jews live in peace. The Jew-hating commands in the Koran are quite clear, as is the history of this sick ideology.
You lie. You distort history to suit your agenda. You are a liar. The establishment of the state of Israel was bloody but no where near as bloody as Pakistan. The Arabs did not have to leave. They were forced to leave by their Arab neighbours. They were also forced to leave by the newly turned Israeli government if they took up arms. Which some did. But as you already know, many did not and they now make up c2M Israeli Arabs today. Do not lie. Do not distort the truth. The nakba was not a catastrophe in the sense that you purport it to mean. And it never was. It was always meant as a catastrophe that the Arab nations did not destroy the newly formed Israeli nation as was their intention. That was their catastrophe. Not the consequences of that emphatic defeat which the Arab nations had no interest in. They were never interested in the lives of those Arabs, and this has never changed. Many Jews purchased their land from the ottomans prior to the British. You only seem to reference your Arab ‘massacres’ but not the massacres carried out by the Arabs on the Jews prior to 1948. Do you want me to list them? Because I can. So quite frankly, you can shove your analysis up your arse where the sun certainly does not shine. Sunshine.
ICYMI, this should warm the cockles of your heart 😉🙂:
"BREAKING: New Merz government orders the pushback of all illegal migrants at the German borders, effectively abolishes asylum as a path into Germany. Eugyppius"
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/breaking-new-merz-government-orders?utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
Yes I read that. Fascinating.
I don't know much about politics in Germany - I know a bit more thanks to Eugyppius - but I suspect this isn't some fundamental change of heart rather a tactic to try to undermine support for AfD
We shall see what happens
If Germany (the heart of the EU for goodness sake) can do it, why can’t we? As someone said earlier, the convention on refugees is from 1951. How many things from that year are still current? Would you have a fridge or a television made in that year? Times have moved on.
Exactly! 👍🙂
Thorny problem though -- as Rudolph suggested -- with many practical and theoretical issues to deal with.
One of the former being the analogous case of a life-raft having a maximum carrying capacity. Let too many on it then it sinks and everyone drowns.
More theoretically, there's the issue of letting in refugees from "failed states" -- how much responsibility do "first--world" states have to fix those problem, one way or another? Though some have argued that the US is also such a "failed state" ... 😉🙂
Wikipedia: "A failed state is a state that has lost its ability to fulfill fundamental security and development functions, lacking effective control over its territory and borders. Common characteristics of a failed state include a government incapable of tax collection, law enforcement, security assurance, territorial control, political or civil office staffing, and infrastructure maintenance."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failed_state
But refugees from such states may not be ideal candidates for citizenship in the first place.
They can try elsewhere. Not our problem.
Maybe not entirely and not directly.
But some reason to argue that the "colonial powers" -- France, Germany, England, even the US -- are now reaping what they have sown.
For details and ICYMI, you may wish to read "All the Shah's Men":
Wikipedia: "All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror is a book written by American journalist Stephen Kinzer. The book discusses the 1953 Iranian coup d'état backed by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in which Mohammed Mossadegh, Iran's democratically elected prime minister, was overthrown by Islamists supported by American and British agents (chief among them Kermit Roosevelt) and royalists loyal to Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_Shah%27s_Men
As for Gaza, the solution the Romans used at Carthage might be the quickest and most effective answer. And as for the fellow who wanted that cervical smear, he ought to be told that some minor surgery would have to be performed to remove some fleshly obstructions, and would he please sign a consent form attesting that he was of age to give consent, was of sound mind or had no mental condition that would preclude consent, and so forth, so that the surgery could go ahead. He'd be relieved to find out that the cervical smear was negative, nothing wrong there...
"But where are these kinds of discussions amongst our political elite class? Have they even ironed out the ‘why’ question as a first step?" George S Patton once said "[i]f evryone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking..." That seems to apply here, as does this quote from an 1857 speech by Frederick Douglass: "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. In the light of these ideas, Negroes will be hunted at the North and held and flogged at the South so long as they submit to those devilish outrages and make no resistance, either moral or physical. Men may not get all they pay for in this world, but they must certainly pay for all they get. If we ever get free from the oppressions and wrongs heaped upon us, we must pay for their removal. We must do this by labor, by suffering, by sacrifice, and if needs be, by our lives and the lives of others."
My old landlady in Kansas City, Missouri, was a survivor of both the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, and Auschwitz, the terminus of many one-way train trips out into the countryside. Jews in Warsaw could not get guns from brick and mortar gun stores, they had to get them from the two-legged kind, in her case using .22 calibre bullets for currency. One Schmeisser machine pistol, a couple of belts of ammo, a couple of hand grenades - and maybe other useful things - for a single bullet, delivered quickly and silently, such a deal!. With what she and others got, they shot up a formation of Waffen SS, survivors shot down as they ran. That was a bit too much for the Übermenschen, and so the Ghetto was leveled with high explosives and incendiaries, delivered by Stuka dive bombers. When she came out of her sub-basement shelter, the rubble stood no more than a meter high and was so hot you'd get burned if you touched it. They made it out to the countryside through the sewers... Fascinating conversation over milk and home made cookies, when I went to go pay the rent. Inventiveness and being backed up against the wall, that made for survivors, just a note...
I'll just say this: Rivers of Blood. And he was right.
And we have known it for 50 years.
I sincerely, very sincerely, hope he was wrong.
But he might not be
Nations that do not defend their culture will cease to exist as such. Open borders have facilitated the Surrender to a conquest ideology. Of course talking about rapes is verboten. The conquerors disapprove of such talk. It may cause people to examine their raping ideology. Hide your children. They are fair game.
Yes it sometimes seems that everyone else, except the melanin deficient, is allowed to have a culture these days!
Once the USA's 2nd amendment is understood, the disturbing thing about shotguns is their possession exclusively by authorities, as opposed to "the people." Another, usually very thoughtful, substacker has proposed America could cone to Europe's aid by gun running small arms to those who would defend themselves. https://open.substack.com/pub/boriquagato/p/the-case-for-arming-europe?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=6x8dd
my own experience with coming to know a few dozen Europeans over the years is that the only one of them that would ever even think of handling a gun moved here and became a citizen. that is, i doubt there are any really willing to anything remotely similar to what happened here in 1776
I really seriously hope it doesn't come to widespread violence (or even limited violence). That would be terrible. I sometimes wonder whether our politicians are deliberately fanning the flames to create that violence so they can step in and 'sort it out' by implementing all sorts of authoritarian measures. A bit conspiratorially-minded to be sure, but it's never easy to figure out what our 'lords and masters' are actually thinking is it?
Apologies for the long comment, but I'm trying to make up for a lot of lost time here.
Rudolph, as much as I enjoy your sense of humor, I haven't had much chance to read most of those people's writings whom I honor. Let me try to make up for my transgression here, at least to some extent.
It's well over time to ask: Who is running the country?
Oh, well, most people probably know.
On the other side of the pond, I've also been concerned that violence might erupt. There are "alt" sites trying to goad people into it, while it will only end in martial law.
It looks like that's part of the globalist plan: creating shortages that will start violence so that the victims will be begging to be saved by those who created the problem: the grabberment...
In Britain, you can end up in prison only for saying what Islam really is... Your cussing is understandable... I'd sure prefer to die than become a Dhimmi under Islamic rule:
https://thestoryofmohammed.blogspot.com/
Guns won't protect anyone from drones, satellite surveillance, minitanks, areal poisoning from airplanes, Directed Energy Weapons, and 5G.
Nor sure who "we" is under the circumstances, but I assume, it's the victims.
Mixing incompatible cultures is also a part of the National Humiliation Project in the US:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-start-of-the-national-humiliation
The facade is different here:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/ice-ing-america
And NO, no refugees are welcome from incompatible cultures. In the last thousand years, Europeans have built up much of this world through deaths, sacrifices, and suffering. Would you give away part of your income to a beggar (ouch, a highwayman sounds like a better word) who would never contribute, only take?
By now, it's not about skin color; it's about cultural compatibility. Here, in the US, blacks might be the closest potential allies to whites:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/whites-and-blacks-are-the-closest
If all people drew the line at the same point, they would not be possible to enslave:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/freedom-is-what-freedom-does-but
Forcing people to assume absurd statements is part of the shock treatment that stops them from thinking, discussing details, and lowers their remaining self-esteem:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-shock-effect
That's one of the reasons why I never write about "sex change."
The Israel/Palestine scenario seems to be against the average Jew:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-palestinian-case-promotes-jewish
Most Jews are just as powerless as Britons or Americans are.
That applies to the H* lies, too, which thankfully, are slowly being reverted by respectable Israeli historians, too:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/do-not-become-like-those-whom-you
There's definitely a lot to be worried about - and it's always hard to guess at the underlying motivations for some of the crackpot things our 'leaders' do
It is no longer a secret that the plan is to take in so many "guests" that they reach critical mass and overthrow your government. The current powers-that-be think they will still be in charge, but they won't. They will be first in line for the beheadings.
I've no idea what's going on really - it's so very hard to know what they're thinking and why they seem hell-bent on destroying social cohesion.
Being kind is OK - being kind and stupid is a recipe for disaster
Lydia Lozano
Why would the facilitators of the conquest be the first in line to be beheaded? They have already lost their weak minds.
:)
as for the palestine matter: you definitely need to educate yourself .
a nice starting point:
https://www.akevot.org.il/en/article/intelligence-brief-from-1948-hidden-for-decades-indicates-jewish-fighters-actions-were-the-major-cause-of-arab-displacement-not-calls-from-arab-leadership/#/
Ah Naqba Shnaqba
Israel and the Jews were facing annihilation. A genocide. A war they did not want and a war they did not start. They did what they needed to do to survive and to ensure their continued survival. What were they supposed to do? Hand out free bagels?
Have they been rough on the Palestinians? Yeah, they have - but the Palestinians brought it all on themselves in my view.
It's a tragedy, and we can only speculate how history would have been different had the Palestinians chosen the path of peace instead of the path of war and genocide. I suspect we'd have a vibrant and prosperous Palestine now living peacefully with their Jewish neighbours.
who chose the path of war and genocide?
on april 9th 1948 members of the jewish resistance against the british attacked and massacred the palestinian village of deir yassin near jerusalem.
it was the first in a long row of massacres against civilian palestinian population.
tantura, kafr qasim, qibya and many more.
immediately after the 1948 war started israel started to level palestinain villages on israeli territory.
more than 500 villages were completely destroyed.
when the fighting had subsided the palestinains that had fled the fighting were forbidden to return to their land and rebuild their homes.
so they became refugees.
but they should have accepted the division by the un, like the jews did!
the jews never did accept the division.
in the division the city of jaffa was to become a palestinain enclave in israel.
the jews started operation hametz and conquered jaffa on the british one day before the independence of israel.
the inhabitants had been forcefully removed, being able only to take what they could carry, and never were allowed to return.
they mostly ended up as refugees in gaza.
in 1896 theodor herzl wrote 'der judenstaat'.
a 34 page pamflet about the need for a jewish state and an outline how that state would be.
he described meticulously how the state would be organised etc.
he also stated where that state should be: in palestine.
in all of those 34 pages he referred to the christians already living in palestine once, but not even once uses the word 'arab' or 'palestinian'
in his mind they no longer did exist in israel.
david ben gurion in the late thirties wrote a letter to his son, in which he made it quite clear that the palestinains were to leave israel, preferably voluntarily.
or else 'they would bespoken to in a different language'..
and we have seen what language that was...
naqba shnaqba?
shame on you....
I have educated myself. Muslims have never let the Jews live in peace. The Jew-hating commands in the Koran are quite clear, as is the history of this sick ideology.
in 1949 there were around 135.000 jews living in iraq. the biggest and most prosperous jewish community in the region.
the iraqi government allowed them to leave for israel.
they all denied.
all of them wanted to stay.
then in very short order 5 bombs exploded near jewish institutions.
the jews got scared and left for israel.
it turned out those bombs, at least 3 of them, were planted by an israeli agent.
how do we know?
because avi shlaim, an iraqi born jew, professor of history has studied the matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfDhaWlqXf8
maybe you should educate yourself a bit further?
You lie. You distort history to suit your agenda. You are a liar. The establishment of the state of Israel was bloody but no where near as bloody as Pakistan. The Arabs did not have to leave. They were forced to leave by their Arab neighbours. They were also forced to leave by the newly turned Israeli government if they took up arms. Which some did. But as you already know, many did not and they now make up c2M Israeli Arabs today. Do not lie. Do not distort the truth. The nakba was not a catastrophe in the sense that you purport it to mean. And it never was. It was always meant as a catastrophe that the Arab nations did not destroy the newly formed Israeli nation as was their intention. That was their catastrophe. Not the consequences of that emphatic defeat which the Arab nations had no interest in. They were never interested in the lives of those Arabs, and this has never changed. Many Jews purchased their land from the ottomans prior to the British. You only seem to reference your Arab ‘massacres’ but not the massacres carried out by the Arabs on the Jews prior to 1948. Do you want me to list them? Because I can. So quite frankly, you can shove your analysis up your arse where the sun certainly does not shine. Sunshine.