Back in my days as a law enforcement officer who spent 15-years in the juvenile unit, I arrested parents for this type of behavior. Teaching your under-age child how to masturbate? Buying them sex toys? It’s not just creepy ... it’s criminal. These parents are sick! And their poor children are doomed. So much of what I see going on today between children and adults, behaviors being applauded and promoted, are CRIMINAL. Period. The hyper-sexualization of todays children, the blurring of boundaries of pedophilia, the mutilation of healthy, young bodies...absolutely revolting. And we as a society will pay an incredibly high price for this rampant perversion and abuse. The future is not pretty.
It's just wildly inappropriate. I'm not sure I'd go quite as far as describing it as criminal, but I'll bow to your greater insight on this - I'm sure you will have seen the impact of this kind of stuff on families first hand.
Adults and juveniles acting sexually together is criminal. Period. Adults having explicit sexual conversations with children is illegal. It’s not that “I don’t like it”. It’s criminal behavior. And no, I had a very safe and healthy upbringing. No trauma as you imply. Perhaps you engage in these perverse behaviors and so need to justify them?
Ok, so I was uncomfortable just reading that. Like, WHAT?? 🥴As far as I'm concerned they are WAY too invested in the sexual pleasure of their kids. I mean no one, especially my parents sat me down and gave me play by play instructions on having sex and I think I'd die if they handed me a sex toy. That goes for today as an adult. I figured it all out at the appropriate time with my partner. Which is how it's supposed to happen. Explore and learn with your partner. Preferably one you intend on marrying if not after marriage. I get that may be old fashioned but I can't believe parents are now teaching their very minor children how to have sex and assisting them to pleasure themselves by giving them sex toys either. For the life of me I can't figure this out. It's creepy, and inappropriate. Why do these parents feel it's ok? Are parents of heterosexual kids doing this? Why are parents of LGB kids doing this? Wtf is going on? GROSS!
I am not sure this is real. There are some tells that it may be trolls and/or bots. Like the Nigerian scams that contain awkward phrases and misspellings, this one tries to cram a little too much lingo in one sentence. Doesn’t seem to follow normal, more urgent advocacy. And again, why? Simple, the more you can focus on gender free bathrooms and now sex toys (ostensibly), the less you question and advocate around (and direct fire at) policies, people, and systems undermining sovereignty and human health, and human rights.
Even it is fake, it is a demonstration that tools like Twitter are dangerous. With a few words, at the right place and at the right time, you can keep millions of people occupied on both sides of the fence.
The very first and the very last (daughter is 10) seem the most suspect. The others could be real responses to a fake post. Notice the languaging differences.
No, you’re not a fuddy-duddy. Revulsion is the normal and natural response to what was a skin-crawling thread on Twitter, where I first saw this.
These are virtue-signaling parents run amuck, who are now breaking their own children and then figuring out hellish ways of trying to “fix” what they deliberately broke.
Some commenters on Twitter thought it was a more evil version of Munchausen by Proxy, but I don’t know…it feels worse even than that. It’s like evil is literally oozing off the screen as one reads this. Satanic is the only word I can think of that seems strong enough.
God will send a cleansing fire to deal with this, I’ve no doubt. These poor children are sacrifices to dark and evil gods.
I really need to take a break from Twitter. You think you've "seen it all" and then a thread like this pops up. Hard to describe the mixture of emotions - revulsion, nausea, utter disbelief and bewilderment.
I wondered if I'd got so out of touch that this sort of thing was considered 'normal' these days.
About a year ago I came across a transgender woman (man) who proudly displayed the multiple dildos (dildoes?!?) he used to pleasure himself. The image of Jesus was on each of them, as I recall.
I've honestly got no issue with what adults do (sexually) to each other and to themselves in the privacy of their own homes.
Whatever floats your boat.
What I don't really get is the desire to display it to the world. Although I suppose some people do get a kick out of that - and the popularity of porn would suggest that a lot of people get a kick out of watching it too.
I agree. I also give Munchausen by Proxy some consideration when I see these stories. Especially parents who transition and mutilate their children. But honestly, I’m with you. It’s simply demonic.
My thought on this post is that it is a lie. I think 95% of trans-related posts are just some fantasy creative writing project fetish. If you lie about something as basic as biological sex what else would you lie about?
Remember Jazz Jennings? Given puberty blockers and had EVERY possible accommodation medical intervention and surgery and still doesn’t pass? He had a micropenis before he got that removed and never had an orgasm.
Alienation might be part of it. But it's a willful separation from God. We do it to ourselves by how we live our lives. CS Lewis wrote that the the doors of hell are locked from the inside. That makes sense to me.
(I am hoping these WEFMFers get the Dante's "Inferno" treatment...and their victims get to choose the ring that these bleepers spend eternity in.)
Being alone among others is the way I understood that idea:
The people around are a community of shared belief and you who for some reason cannot share that, is therefore alone.
Since being physically alone is just that there's no alienation or atomisation of the mind (or soul if you prefer), while being alone among others is most definitely hellish no matter if we use the bilogical-evolutionary explanation of us being pack animals or the spiritual one about belonging within the grace of the divine presence.
That's my understanding, though I'll freely admit it's wholly based on myself.
My 21 year daughter old came out as bisexual earlier this year. She is still planning on marrying her BF though.
I sat her down and had a talk with her.
"Lex, you know that I love you. I would do anything for you. I'd lay down my life for you this minute. I'd even kill to keep you safe. But, this bisexual agenda you have, I cannot support that. We did not raise you like that. I hope you understand."
"I understand, Dad. I love you too."
We have an awesome relationship.
You're not a fuddy duddy! We're just living in 🤡 🌎!
Um... bisexuality has been around for a loooooong time. Just because you can't understand it, and your daughter's timing is rather unfortunate, it doesn't make it wrong, or disgusting. And it's not an "agenda," FFS. It's no stranger than homosexuality, just different from heterosexuality, and sometimes turns out to be curiosity and short-lived. Relax.
I wonder, is this something that is just FAKE, and put "out there" to freak everybody out and distract us? I wonder if something seriously nefarious is being planned (and/or delivered) while everyone freaks out?
They were given freedom without order, because the prophets of freedoms started equating order with oppression.
And if order is oppression then removing order in all its forms must bring freedom.
What it does bring is chaos: the rule of the strong unfettered by order, where the strong do as the please and the weak suffer as they must.
It will pass. Civilisations acting like the main or greater western one cannot defend against ciivlisations who are united around their own order of things, and are made extinct for it.
Yikes. There's a healthy boundary between knowing what's going on in your teenager's life and invading their most private intimate thoughts as they are still forming them. This crosses it bizarrely. I've known women who were sexually abused at young ages what stands out is the ways it breaks through personal boundaries and leads to rampant confusion and usually promiscuity. This is like a hypercharged form of it with medical added in...
I love your work so I’m not trying to dissuade you but you’re an English man with grown children, right? I’m just curious as to why you’re delving into the deep cuts of trans nonsense. Did one of your daughters get arrested for correctly observing biological sex?
You are correct - youngest daughter is just past mid twenties now and I'm from the UK
The gender ideology stuff is, in my judgment, really quite dangerous in terms of the 'values' of society. I may try and lay my reasoning behind that at some point in another piece. It's also really quite pernicious in that it essentially pretty much eliminates all the work done by earlier feminists and gay rights activists in bringing about a much-needed levelling of the playing field. Again, that statement needs fleshing out.
In a wider sense it's one element of a few things that deeply concern me at the moment - the rise in authoritarianism, the rise in censorship and information control, the stranglehold of 'critical' theories in our schools and institutions. The genderwoo stuff is one component. My youngest keeps her mouth firmly shut at work and her opinions to herself, but she's even more concerned than me, if that's possible.
The trans activists don’t answer because they care more about male feelings than tens of millions of babies killed for their immutable biological sex
However I see few men delving into just how batshit it gets. Maybe Matt Walsh but he’s just a normal dad while yours has a more academic flair. So it’s interesting reading your work. I enjoy it.
This goes beyond trans. This is parents being weirdly and inappropriately involved in their children's sexual development. There are parents of straight kids in that forum being equally gross.
This is about normalizing sexualization of children in general.
Guttermouth, that is exactly what this garbage is about. Sexualizing children. And it’s just the first step toward normalizing and accepting pedophilia. They’ll blur the barriers an inch at a time until people simply believe that pedophilia is normal. The flame under the frog has been turned up and he doesn’t even know he’s dying. This issue is massive. It’s much more insidious and destructive than people realize. Not just to those directly involved. But to the entire world.
Rarely have I seen so clear self-admittance slips for closed psychiatric care with restraining orders forbidding the persons involved from coming within 1500 meters of children.
If western history from 1950s to now was homework, I'd hand it back with a big red text reading: "Redo completely - you've lost the plot".
That has destroyed my day. It really is most disturbing. Very gross for any kid to be talking about masturbation with a parent. The more I see things like this, the more I think these type of people are actually subverting kids to encourage them to identify with something they are not. The trans thing seems either a way to negate homosexuality or to sexualise children at a young age. Therefore homophobic or perverted.
If you haven't, you should check out manuscriptwishlist.com where editors of children's and adult books post what they're looking for. You can search by buzzword. "Fat positive" is a recent trend.
“Next-level parenting”??
Back in my days as a law enforcement officer who spent 15-years in the juvenile unit, I arrested parents for this type of behavior. Teaching your under-age child how to masturbate? Buying them sex toys? It’s not just creepy ... it’s criminal. These parents are sick! And their poor children are doomed. So much of what I see going on today between children and adults, behaviors being applauded and promoted, are CRIMINAL. Period. The hyper-sexualization of todays children, the blurring of boundaries of pedophilia, the mutilation of healthy, young bodies...absolutely revolting. And we as a society will pay an incredibly high price for this rampant perversion and abuse. The future is not pretty.
It's just wildly inappropriate. I'm not sure I'd go quite as far as describing it as criminal, but I'll bow to your greater insight on this - I'm sure you will have seen the impact of this kind of stuff on families first hand.
Exactly! Blurring of what should be very obvious boundaries! Its mind-blowing and you're also right about it being criminal! Crazy town!
You said it, and said it well. Poor kids.
things are not criminal just because you do not like them.
you sound like someone that has had negative experiences during adolescence.
maybe you should get some professional help?
You generally go around gaslighting people? daaaaaaaamn
you seem to have no idea what gaslighting actually is.
or maybe you are just ignorant?
LOL Right.
Adults and juveniles acting sexually together is criminal. Period. Adults having explicit sexual conversations with children is illegal. It’s not that “I don’t like it”. It’s criminal behavior. And no, I had a very safe and healthy upbringing. No trauma as you imply. Perhaps you engage in these perverse behaviors and so need to justify them?
you have no idea about what is criminal and what is not.
as a leo everything is criminal to you.
you got a warped view of the world.
guess what: not everybody thinks he is god.
You’re hatred of law enforcement negated any argument you could possible have in this subject. Anger issues much?
i know, everybody that does not accept the leo god position automatically is discredited.
that is one of the reasons people hate you....
Ok, so I was uncomfortable just reading that. Like, WHAT?? 🥴As far as I'm concerned they are WAY too invested in the sexual pleasure of their kids. I mean no one, especially my parents sat me down and gave me play by play instructions on having sex and I think I'd die if they handed me a sex toy. That goes for today as an adult. I figured it all out at the appropriate time with my partner. Which is how it's supposed to happen. Explore and learn with your partner. Preferably one you intend on marrying if not after marriage. I get that may be old fashioned but I can't believe parents are now teaching their very minor children how to have sex and assisting them to pleasure themselves by giving them sex toys either. For the life of me I can't figure this out. It's creepy, and inappropriate. Why do these parents feel it's ok? Are parents of heterosexual kids doing this? Why are parents of LGB kids doing this? Wtf is going on? GROSS!
It grossed and creeped me out too.
I read through the thread and comments on twitter in a kind of daze - I had real difficulty processing what I was reading.
I'm at a bit of a loss on this one. Have we just lost sight of everything that is decent, noble and good?
I never thought that family values would refer to the value you set the vibrator at :-(
I think it's not a majority yet... I suspect most people are reacting the way we are.
I am not sure this is real. There are some tells that it may be trolls and/or bots. Like the Nigerian scams that contain awkward phrases and misspellings, this one tries to cram a little too much lingo in one sentence. Doesn’t seem to follow normal, more urgent advocacy. And again, why? Simple, the more you can focus on gender free bathrooms and now sex toys (ostensibly), the less you question and advocate around (and direct fire at) policies, people, and systems undermining sovereignty and human health, and human rights.
I really hope you are correct in this
Even it is fake, it is a demonstration that tools like Twitter are dangerous. With a few words, at the right place and at the right time, you can keep millions of people occupied on both sides of the fence.
The very first and the very last (daughter is 10) seem the most suspect. The others could be real responses to a fake post. Notice the languaging differences.
No, you’re not a fuddy-duddy. Revulsion is the normal and natural response to what was a skin-crawling thread on Twitter, where I first saw this.
These are virtue-signaling parents run amuck, who are now breaking their own children and then figuring out hellish ways of trying to “fix” what they deliberately broke.
Some commenters on Twitter thought it was a more evil version of Munchausen by Proxy, but I don’t know…it feels worse even than that. It’s like evil is literally oozing off the screen as one reads this. Satanic is the only word I can think of that seems strong enough.
God will send a cleansing fire to deal with this, I’ve no doubt. These poor children are sacrifices to dark and evil gods.
I really need to take a break from Twitter. You think you've "seen it all" and then a thread like this pops up. Hard to describe the mixture of emotions - revulsion, nausea, utter disbelief and bewilderment.
I wondered if I'd got so out of touch that this sort of thing was considered 'normal' these days.
About a year ago I came across a transgender woman (man) who proudly displayed the multiple dildos (dildoes?!?) he used to pleasure himself. The image of Jesus was on each of them, as I recall.
I've honestly got no issue with what adults do (sexually) to each other and to themselves in the privacy of their own homes.
Whatever floats your boat.
What I don't really get is the desire to display it to the world. Although I suppose some people do get a kick out of that - and the popularity of porn would suggest that a lot of people get a kick out of watching it too.
I agree. I also give Munchausen by Proxy some consideration when I see these stories. Especially parents who transition and mutilate their children. But honestly, I’m with you. It’s simply demonic.
My thought on this post is that it is a lie. I think 95% of trans-related posts are just some fantasy creative writing project fetish. If you lie about something as basic as biological sex what else would you lie about?
Remember Jazz Jennings? Given puberty blockers and had EVERY possible accommodation medical intervention and surgery and still doesn’t pass? He had a micropenis before he got that removed and never had an orgasm.
https://youtu.be/-bCVA9q3RBc
Now I gotta go read something wholesome for some brain bleach
I was wondering that, too.
"Old-fashioned fuddy-duddy"=Sane
If I carry on reading stuff like this on Twitter I think I'll be in danger of losing the last vestiges of my sanity!
I hear you...
Thank God for Substack. We are not alone.
Serious question, doc.
Do you think real Hell is being completely alone? A priest told me that once.
Alienation might be part of it. But it's a willful separation from God. We do it to ourselves by how we live our lives. CS Lewis wrote that the the doors of hell are locked from the inside. That makes sense to me.
(I am hoping these WEFMFers get the Dante's "Inferno" treatment...and their victims get to choose the ring that these bleepers spend eternity in.)
Being alone among others is the way I understood that idea:
The people around are a community of shared belief and you who for some reason cannot share that, is therefore alone.
Since being physically alone is just that there's no alienation or atomisation of the mind (or soul if you prefer), while being alone among others is most definitely hellish no matter if we use the bilogical-evolutionary explanation of us being pack animals or the spiritual one about belonging within the grace of the divine presence.
That's my understanding, though I'll freely admit it's wholly based on myself.
Woke is very much a case of the abyss staring back at you.
Next-Level parenting is next level Munchausen's by proxy. Ugh...
My 21 year daughter old came out as bisexual earlier this year. She is still planning on marrying her BF though.
I sat her down and had a talk with her.
"Lex, you know that I love you. I would do anything for you. I'd lay down my life for you this minute. I'd even kill to keep you safe. But, this bisexual agenda you have, I cannot support that. We did not raise you like that. I hope you understand."
"I understand, Dad. I love you too."
We have an awesome relationship.
You're not a fuddy duddy! We're just living in 🤡 🌎!
Um... bisexuality has been around for a loooooong time. Just because you can't understand it, and your daughter's timing is rather unfortunate, it doesn't make it wrong, or disgusting. And it's not an "agenda," FFS. It's no stranger than homosexuality, just different from heterosexuality, and sometimes turns out to be curiosity and short-lived. Relax.
I think this was my punishment for starting a religious bar brawl on my stack today.
Thanks for the loss of my dinner.
I'm sorry about that.
It probably needed more of a barf warning
I wonder, is this something that is just FAKE, and put "out there" to freak everybody out and distract us? I wonder if something seriously nefarious is being planned (and/or delivered) while everyone freaks out?
Saw that thread and commented. It was a bit wild there today.
I mean, it's The Gutter. Not "Civilized Discourse Street."
I need to subscribe to your substack!
yes, you do!
Nobody "needs" to. They "want" to and find out they just can't quit me.
Oh, I like religious bar brawls. Was out roaming the Northwoods today...will tune in when I get a chance.
Ugh. Hiking was a way better use of your time, doc.
Thanks for the warning. I will sip an alcoholic beverage or two before taking a peek.
Smart.
Who knew the next new hit show on HGTV would be "The Renovation of Sodom and Gomorrah".
Seriously, WTF has happened to people?
"WTF has happened to people?"
They were given freedom without order, because the prophets of freedoms started equating order with oppression.
And if order is oppression then removing order in all its forms must bring freedom.
What it does bring is chaos: the rule of the strong unfettered by order, where the strong do as the please and the weak suffer as they must.
It will pass. Civilisations acting like the main or greater western one cannot defend against ciivlisations who are united around their own order of things, and are made extinct for it.
Such is life.
Yikes. There's a healthy boundary between knowing what's going on in your teenager's life and invading their most private intimate thoughts as they are still forming them. This crosses it bizarrely. I've known women who were sexually abused at young ages what stands out is the ways it breaks through personal boundaries and leads to rampant confusion and usually promiscuity. This is like a hypercharged form of it with medical added in...
I love your work so I’m not trying to dissuade you but you’re an English man with grown children, right? I’m just curious as to why you’re delving into the deep cuts of trans nonsense. Did one of your daughters get arrested for correctly observing biological sex?
You are correct - youngest daughter is just past mid twenties now and I'm from the UK
The gender ideology stuff is, in my judgment, really quite dangerous in terms of the 'values' of society. I may try and lay my reasoning behind that at some point in another piece. It's also really quite pernicious in that it essentially pretty much eliminates all the work done by earlier feminists and gay rights activists in bringing about a much-needed levelling of the playing field. Again, that statement needs fleshing out.
In a wider sense it's one element of a few things that deeply concern me at the moment - the rise in authoritarianism, the rise in censorship and information control, the stranglehold of 'critical' theories in our schools and institutions. The genderwoo stuff is one component. My youngest keeps her mouth firmly shut at work and her opinions to herself, but she's even more concerned than me, if that's possible.
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve asked a trans activists why they don’t just identify as male ?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01225-3
The trans activists don’t answer because they care more about male feelings than tens of millions of babies killed for their immutable biological sex
However I see few men delving into just how batshit it gets. Maybe Matt Walsh but he’s just a normal dad while yours has a more academic flair. So it’s interesting reading your work. I enjoy it.
This goes beyond trans. This is parents being weirdly and inappropriately involved in their children's sexual development. There are parents of straight kids in that forum being equally gross.
This is about normalizing sexualization of children in general.
Guttermouth, that is exactly what this garbage is about. Sexualizing children. And it’s just the first step toward normalizing and accepting pedophilia. They’ll blur the barriers an inch at a time until people simply believe that pedophilia is normal. The flame under the frog has been turned up and he doesn’t even know he’s dying. This issue is massive. It’s much more insidious and destructive than people realize. Not just to those directly involved. But to the entire world.
Rarely have I seen so clear self-admittance slips for closed psychiatric care with restraining orders forbidding the persons involved from coming within 1500 meters of children.
If western history from 1950s to now was homework, I'd hand it back with a big red text reading: "Redo completely - you've lost the plot".
That has destroyed my day. It really is most disturbing. Very gross for any kid to be talking about masturbation with a parent. The more I see things like this, the more I think these type of people are actually subverting kids to encourage them to identify with something they are not. The trans thing seems either a way to negate homosexuality or to sexualise children at a young age. Therefore homophobic or perverted.
Weird!
If you haven't, you should check out manuscriptwishlist.com where editors of children's and adult books post what they're looking for. You can search by buzzword. "Fat positive" is a recent trend.
Good to know for future alerts as to what’s coming.
That was just disgusting and gross. Yuck.