>> And if Mr. Tutu-Op dispenses all jabs at the last day of week 2
Which is EXACTLY what happens when everyone who was jabbed 2 weeks ago suddenly joins this continuously-compounding set all at once, with none of the people who died along the way being counted.
You'd think with today's computers we could have real-time live updates of patient journals too.
But that may fall into "careful what you wish for"-territory.
It's getting bizarre following the ongoing Covid/vaccine-issue in the US, Germany and Austria as well as other places, seeing as people here react with "Covid? Oh yes, that thing last year, right?" more or less.
ICU cases are under ten/week and has been for months, no upticks whatsoever - not even after schools opened early August. Median age of ICU patient is 63 with one or more of hypertoni, diabetes, chronic heart , liver, kidney or lung condition, and 70% of cases are men. Like the normal flu basically. Week 35 saw 3 800 cases total for the nation. Out of 11 000 000 citizens. Number of cases are steadily dropping week for week, excepting nursing homes for the really old (80+).
Strangely, the Calicivirus (winter vomiting disease) is back with a vengeance. During the height of Covid, cases were lower than 1/20 from the annual average, probably due to better enforcement of hygiene protocols, but now it is back at levels never seen before - and it's very hard not to suspect poor hygiene protocol compliance, seeing as it is mainly spread via kindergartens.
As for the Covid-vaccine, 66% of the population aged 18 and above has received 3 doses and that number seems to have flatlined as the change over the last 4 weeks was two thosuandparts.
Number of AEs, any type, stands at about 100 000 (that's sympoms, not number of people). Number of dead where the mRNA-shot is reported as cause of death is 410.
Which is higher than all other vaccines put together this side of WW2. And is treated as a "right-wing Putinist conspiracy theory" by our media, despite the source being the national vaccination registry...
I'm sure a better model would sort it out. That's science, innit, avin good models?
Somehow, this whole statistics cok-up of all thing Covid&jab-related reminds me of the tale of the Good Empiricist, who every morning before tea and biccies drops an old solid cast clothes iron on his foot, just to see if gravity is still working.
We test for the wrong things, in the wrong way and present it jumbled and obfuscated, ensuring that even if we find proof positive of the jabs being not only unnecessary but downright lethal, we've already subjected billions to them anyway.
Because you'd think, if gravity was off when the Empiricist woke up, he'd notice that before even making it to his clothes iron and graph, wouldn't you? But if he doesn't check anything until he uses said clothes iron... here we are.
I don't have time right now to get into details, but I'll just say:
DON'T GET ANY JABS.
There is NO evidence of a virus, the jabs are killing a LOT of people and maiming plenty, too.
There is NO evidence of "vaccines" EVER being helpful, and now much evidence coming out that suggests even in the old days, before genocide, "vaccines" were harmful, not helpful and we ought to be looking at the effects of this insanity on the poor children, with 75 shots before the age of 5 and skyrocketing health problems like we've never, ever known.
It's far better to TRUST NATURE than a lot of criminal Pharma guys, try to eat a good diet, exercise, and all the other good things we've always known about. Okay, if you don't believe me, go listen to Dr. Thomas Cowan. Cheers!
Well, la-tee-da! Thank you for explaining in an easy to understand manner. Over my first cup of coffee I took my time and digested every sentence. Voila! I got it. If only my covidiot friends/family would……. (Hope you and mom are having a good time!)
He's referring to relative efficacy in this example, but you can play this trick with either one. The datacrime is in how you collect the data points to join the "winner's group" AFTER giving the losers that drop dead a chance to be swept out of the pool- only the winners end up getting in the vaxxed pool, and are now considered to have been vaxxes all along, whereas the losers are counted as unvaxxed (even if they were also vaxxed all along).
Most mornings, I agree with you. I follow brainiacs Dr Malone, Alex B, eugyppius, Richard Moore, Michael Senger, Guttermouth, etc. and it sometimes seems halfway through their well formulated and extensively researched documentation, I check out. Shaking my head, I move the email to the “save” folder, hoping to digest it later. Today, my Peet’s Dark Roast helped me stay focused!!!
I'm not primarily a math person. When I read articles like this I very often try to "play along at home" by devising a parallel experiment in my mind with, maybe, smaller numbers or a more simplistic narrative while keeping the same concepts, and I can usually see the concepts clearly when I re-enact it on paper. This is especially true with stuff Mathew Crawford (Rounding the Earth) puts out.
This is called Immortal Time Bias. The people who made it to get their shot in week 2 already survived not dying in week 1.
What happens if you normalize to Human Weeks instead of population? You have ~1,7m human weeks in the unvaccinated group and ~300k human weeks in the vaccinated group. You don't have 200k vaccinated and 800k unvaccinated. Do the exact math and I believe your "efficacy" goes away.
This happens all the freaking time in the public data from all indications.
And if Mr. Tutu-Op dispenses all jabs at the last day of week 2, efficacy will be almost 100%.
As denominator, one should not use number of people, but total population time spent in the unvaccinated / vaccinated states.
1-2990*1700000/16910/300000 = zero (approx.)
Fabulous - a very succinct explanation of where the problem lies
>> And if Mr. Tutu-Op dispenses all jabs at the last day of week 2
Which is EXACTLY what happens when everyone who was jabbed 2 weeks ago suddenly joins this continuously-compounding set all at once, with none of the people who died along the way being counted.
Isn't that standard at hospitals and such that you file your reports weekly anyway?
Yes, but the issue is that until that threshold they are classified as unvaccinated, and then, magically, they're not.
If they were classified as vaccinated from the moment they got the shot, the numbers would behave very differently.
You'd think with today's computers we could have real-time live updates of patient journals too.
But that may fall into "careful what you wish for"-territory.
It's getting bizarre following the ongoing Covid/vaccine-issue in the US, Germany and Austria as well as other places, seeing as people here react with "Covid? Oh yes, that thing last year, right?" more or less.
ICU cases are under ten/week and has been for months, no upticks whatsoever - not even after schools opened early August. Median age of ICU patient is 63 with one or more of hypertoni, diabetes, chronic heart , liver, kidney or lung condition, and 70% of cases are men. Like the normal flu basically. Week 35 saw 3 800 cases total for the nation. Out of 11 000 000 citizens. Number of cases are steadily dropping week for week, excepting nursing homes for the really old (80+).
Strangely, the Calicivirus (winter vomiting disease) is back with a vengeance. During the height of Covid, cases were lower than 1/20 from the annual average, probably due to better enforcement of hygiene protocols, but now it is back at levels never seen before - and it's very hard not to suspect poor hygiene protocol compliance, seeing as it is mainly spread via kindergartens.
As for the Covid-vaccine, 66% of the population aged 18 and above has received 3 doses and that number seems to have flatlined as the change over the last 4 weeks was two thosuandparts.
Number of AEs, any type, stands at about 100 000 (that's sympoms, not number of people). Number of dead where the mRNA-shot is reported as cause of death is 410.
Which is higher than all other vaccines put together this side of WW2. And is treated as a "right-wing Putinist conspiracy theory" by our media, despite the source being the national vaccination registry...
Sorry, did we have topic somewhere?
Topic? We don't need no stinkin' topic.
I'm sure a better model would sort it out. That's science, innit, avin good models?
Somehow, this whole statistics cok-up of all thing Covid&jab-related reminds me of the tale of the Good Empiricist, who every morning before tea and biccies drops an old solid cast clothes iron on his foot, just to see if gravity is still working.
We test for the wrong things, in the wrong way and present it jumbled and obfuscated, ensuring that even if we find proof positive of the jabs being not only unnecessary but downright lethal, we've already subjected billions to them anyway.
Because you'd think, if gravity was off when the Empiricist woke up, he'd notice that before even making it to his clothes iron and graph, wouldn't you? But if he doesn't check anything until he uses said clothes iron... here we are.
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I don't have time right now to get into details, but I'll just say:
DON'T GET ANY JABS.
There is NO evidence of a virus, the jabs are killing a LOT of people and maiming plenty, too.
There is NO evidence of "vaccines" EVER being helpful, and now much evidence coming out that suggests even in the old days, before genocide, "vaccines" were harmful, not helpful and we ought to be looking at the effects of this insanity on the poor children, with 75 shots before the age of 5 and skyrocketing health problems like we've never, ever known.
It's far better to TRUST NATURE than a lot of criminal Pharma guys, try to eat a good diet, exercise, and all the other good things we've always known about. Okay, if you don't believe me, go listen to Dr. Thomas Cowan. Cheers!
Well, la-tee-da! Thank you for explaining in an easy to understand manner. Over my first cup of coffee I took my time and digested every sentence. Voila! I got it. If only my covidiot friends/family would……. (Hope you and mom are having a good time!)
Although you have lost me....are you talking about absolute efficacy or relative?
PS. You haven't really lost me, my brain just refuses to even try and understand math right now.
It is beeping at me saying "it is too early in the morning, I refuse to engage".
He's referring to relative efficacy in this example, but you can play this trick with either one. The datacrime is in how you collect the data points to join the "winner's group" AFTER giving the losers that drop dead a chance to be swept out of the pool- only the winners end up getting in the vaxxed pool, and are now considered to have been vaxxes all along, whereas the losers are counted as unvaxxed (even if they were also vaxxed all along).
Most mornings, I agree with you. I follow brainiacs Dr Malone, Alex B, eugyppius, Richard Moore, Michael Senger, Guttermouth, etc. and it sometimes seems halfway through their well formulated and extensively researched documentation, I check out. Shaking my head, I move the email to the “save” folder, hoping to digest it later. Today, my Peet’s Dark Roast helped me stay focused!!!
I'm not primarily a math person. When I read articles like this I very often try to "play along at home" by devising a parallel experiment in my mind with, maybe, smaller numbers or a more simplistic narrative while keeping the same concepts, and I can usually see the concepts clearly when I re-enact it on paper. This is especially true with stuff Mathew Crawford (Rounding the Earth) puts out.
This is called Immortal Time Bias. The people who made it to get their shot in week 2 already survived not dying in week 1.
What happens if you normalize to Human Weeks instead of population? You have ~1,7m human weeks in the unvaccinated group and ~300k human weeks in the vaccinated group. You don't have 200k vaccinated and 800k unvaccinated. Do the exact math and I believe your "efficacy" goes away.
This happens all the freaking time in the public data from all indications.