I can't get my head around most of this (as previous post demonstrates), but your pictorials make me snort with laughter. I cannot wait to come out with the MAN/WOMAN/weird shit thing with my niece and watch her simply EXPLODE with indignation. This is going to be fun.
I've had a few of those righteous indignation moments too - and 'explode' is exactly the right word for it.
I'm not the only person who has experienced difficulty in even getting a discussion off the starting blocks with certain people. I'm obviously trying to discuss things in wrong hair colour mode.
It's like being interviewed by Piers Morgan - you can't get three words out before being angrily jumped on.
I even had one person say to me "This is why you right wingers always seem to win. You're just so calm and rational". And, no, this wasn't ironic or sarcastic. I think he thought being called "right wing" was some kind of major insult. I don't class myself as right wing, but neither do I think that people who are right wing are some kind of monster.
If anything, these days I would say that people on the right wing are the ONLY people I can have a decent conversation with (OK - that's an exaggeration, but it sure does feel like that at times).
I’d consider myself right of centre (mind you, others might disagree with that self assessment), but they use this ‘right wing’ accusation as if you’re Hitler’s 2nd in command!! Mind you, come to think of it, my son does look similar to Himmler (it’s the glasses), so maybe in a past life… I mean who knows???
It is forbidden to question the narrative, because that means you are a terrible person who wants to harm others. With the Covid narrative, asking questions means you want to kill granny; with the gender narrative, it means you are encouraging violence against trans people.
Right. No one is responsible for another person's suicidality. (Someone might be culpable if they've directly abused another tho). But I feel like thse accusations are aggressive and hateful; accusing others of being responsible for suicides and deaths because you don't think the same way, or have a different approach to a virus that is threatening everyone. There is cruelty in these accusations. It's good practice to not return this aggression and cruelty, but stand strong and firm in one's principles.
I remain more flabbergasted by the actual cultural divide over who "won" the argument than the argument itself.
Bridges explicitly refused to answer the questions asked, ACKNOWLEDGED she was refusing to answer them and was instead choosing to respond with something she preferred to discuss, was visibly agitated, talked over Hawley repeatedly, was sarcastic and unprofessional where Hawley was not, and was frankly- am I alone here?- a little SCARY to watch. My brother and I spent the entire time speculating whether she was on drugs as we watched her gigantic psychotic eyes with saucer-wide pupils, tremoring head, flaring nostrils- we fully expected the video to end with her jumping the table, mouth frothing, and attempt to rip out Hawley's windpipe with her teeth.
Fully leaving the substance of ANYONE's arguments aside, no sincere person could say that Bridges "won" the debate. She was triggered, lost her cool, resorted to juvenile emotional tactics, and appeared unhinged.
Play it back muted, especially if you have an Amish or Martian friend who somehow hasn't seen it yet, and ask that person who looks like they're winning or losing.
Yes, the whole division on who "won" a particular argument is really fascinating. I've seen it before with some of these kinds of clips with each side claiming that their guy demolished the other.
I usually end up checking to see if people are talking about the same video clip because the difference in perception is really stark.
Bridges was awful. I would have expected a law professor to have constructed a more cogent argument and certainly one not based on emotive assertions.
You hit the nail squarely on the head Doc. Taking the piss is what it is. Nothing more. Nothing less. And by applying this deep insight into the entire set of current thing insanities, we can just ignore them all. Happy days.
I wanted to keep with 'man' and 'woman' partly to highlight the confusion. I probably should have commented on it because I think the conflation of sex/gender with these terms is a deliberate strategy.
In blue hair colour speak (BHCS) a 'man' can get pregnant precisely because the word 'man' is being used as a gender which is a set of ideas about behavioural characteristics in the context of a society. In BHCS one only needs to be possessed by the *idea* of manhood without possessing any of the biology of a man.
Sometimes they say someone was born a woman and sometimes they say nobody is born a woman as babies are not adults. They are very slippery and have no shame
I hope people who identify as trans are perceptive enough to be insulted by what Bridges said here, which was, "Of course I don't believe this BS. It's insupportable. But I am being held hostage here by an ideology-- my job and my reputation are at stake here-- and I'm going to try to bully you into saying the kinds of things that would get me fired and canceled."
Incidentally, it's kind of ironic that there's a whole book that might be about this issue (the refusal to partake in frank conversations about the body with which one inhabits the world) entitled "White Fragility." I'm not sure whether or not it suggests that having these conversations literally causes white people to off themselves in record numbers, but that seems to me a fairly fragile thing to do and not exactly a sign of peak mental health (or virtue).
I can't get my head around most of this (as previous post demonstrates), but your pictorials make me snort with laughter. I cannot wait to come out with the MAN/WOMAN/weird shit thing with my niece and watch her simply EXPLODE with indignation. This is going to be fun.
I've had a few of those righteous indignation moments too - and 'explode' is exactly the right word for it.
I'm not the only person who has experienced difficulty in even getting a discussion off the starting blocks with certain people. I'm obviously trying to discuss things in wrong hair colour mode.
It's like being interviewed by Piers Morgan - you can't get three words out before being angrily jumped on.
I even had one person say to me "This is why you right wingers always seem to win. You're just so calm and rational". And, no, this wasn't ironic or sarcastic. I think he thought being called "right wing" was some kind of major insult. I don't class myself as right wing, but neither do I think that people who are right wing are some kind of monster.
If anything, these days I would say that people on the right wing are the ONLY people I can have a decent conversation with (OK - that's an exaggeration, but it sure does feel like that at times).
I’d consider myself right of centre (mind you, others might disagree with that self assessment), but they use this ‘right wing’ accusation as if you’re Hitler’s 2nd in command!! Mind you, come to think of it, my son does look similar to Himmler (it’s the glasses), so maybe in a past life… I mean who knows???
It is forbidden to question the narrative, because that means you are a terrible person who wants to harm others. With the Covid narrative, asking questions means you want to kill granny; with the gender narrative, it means you are encouraging violence against trans people.
Right. No one is responsible for another person's suicidality. (Someone might be culpable if they've directly abused another tho). But I feel like thse accusations are aggressive and hateful; accusing others of being responsible for suicides and deaths because you don't think the same way, or have a different approach to a virus that is threatening everyone. There is cruelty in these accusations. It's good practice to not return this aggression and cruelty, but stand strong and firm in one's principles.
I remain more flabbergasted by the actual cultural divide over who "won" the argument than the argument itself.
Bridges explicitly refused to answer the questions asked, ACKNOWLEDGED she was refusing to answer them and was instead choosing to respond with something she preferred to discuss, was visibly agitated, talked over Hawley repeatedly, was sarcastic and unprofessional where Hawley was not, and was frankly- am I alone here?- a little SCARY to watch. My brother and I spent the entire time speculating whether she was on drugs as we watched her gigantic psychotic eyes with saucer-wide pupils, tremoring head, flaring nostrils- we fully expected the video to end with her jumping the table, mouth frothing, and attempt to rip out Hawley's windpipe with her teeth.
Fully leaving the substance of ANYONE's arguments aside, no sincere person could say that Bridges "won" the debate. She was triggered, lost her cool, resorted to juvenile emotional tactics, and appeared unhinged.
Play it back muted, especially if you have an Amish or Martian friend who somehow hasn't seen it yet, and ask that person who looks like they're winning or losing.
Yes, the whole division on who "won" a particular argument is really fascinating. I've seen it before with some of these kinds of clips with each side claiming that their guy demolished the other.
I usually end up checking to see if people are talking about the same video clip because the difference in perception is really stark.
Bridges was awful. I would have expected a law professor to have constructed a more cogent argument and certainly one not based on emotive assertions.
You hit the nail squarely on the head Doc. Taking the piss is what it is. Nothing more. Nothing less. And by applying this deep insight into the entire set of current thing insanities, we can just ignore them all. Happy days.
Hawley is a bright guy. The Cal Berkeley professor is...well, Hawley is a bright guy.
I immediately recognized the exchange as Rudolph Rigger bait. God help us.
Haha
My dream is to have the phrase "you've been Riggered" pass into common parlance
I'll get to work on it right away.
THANK YOU!
Although I'm not sure for what, you are very welcome :-)
For spotlighting absurdity, for speaking the truth without fear and for making me laugh with at it all.
I would change the graphic to sex:
male
Female
As 100% of intersex people are either male or female
I wanted to keep with 'man' and 'woman' partly to highlight the confusion. I probably should have commented on it because I think the conflation of sex/gender with these terms is a deliberate strategy.
In blue hair colour speak (BHCS) a 'man' can get pregnant precisely because the word 'man' is being used as a gender which is a set of ideas about behavioural characteristics in the context of a society. In BHCS one only needs to be possessed by the *idea* of manhood without possessing any of the biology of a man.
Sometimes they say someone was born a woman and sometimes they say nobody is born a woman as babies are not adults. They are very slippery and have no shame
Wait! I’m not black?
Xenogender just makes me think of H.R. Giger and his xenomorph.
where's Ellen Ripley when you need her?
I hope people who identify as trans are perceptive enough to be insulted by what Bridges said here, which was, "Of course I don't believe this BS. It's insupportable. But I am being held hostage here by an ideology-- my job and my reputation are at stake here-- and I'm going to try to bully you into saying the kinds of things that would get me fired and canceled."
Incidentally, it's kind of ironic that there's a whole book that might be about this issue (the refusal to partake in frank conversations about the body with which one inhabits the world) entitled "White Fragility." I'm not sure whether or not it suggests that having these conversations literally causes white people to off themselves in record numbers, but that seems to me a fairly fragile thing to do and not exactly a sign of peak mental health (or virtue).
The clitoris looks like it could be transphobic.
I really must remember that clitoris phrase.