It's too bad the loonies don't accept that the Lunar Orbiter can take photos of the landing sites and that the tracks from the Lunar Vehicles are visible in those.
But each to their own psychosis I guess.
Funny the rental is named "Enterprise". It sure fits with Star Trek - to boldly go where no man has gone before. Probably needs changing to "where no ma'am has blobbed before".
We actually had to rent an EV once - all the real cars where already hired out. My experience? "Now I know how a Swiss Army Knife feels"
Ideally, a Pride-parade would be forced to end at a mosque. Just to, you know, prove a point or two. Some people do need to learn first hand what happens when you pour water into acid, so to speak.
The clash of ideology between 'woke' and (strict) Islam is often somewhat glossed over by those wishing to support LGB+ and defend Muslims against 'Islamophobia. The classic "Queers for Palestine" being one of the best examples of this wilful ignorance. Although Israel has been the most supportive of LGB+ stuff in the region with big Pride marches there and a mostly tolerant people and government, there have also been sporadic Pride events in other Middle Eastern countries.
Well, it's not "strict" anything, it is baseline and normal. Majority of moslems think that homosexuals are to be converted or killed.
The point of having LGBWTF marching to a mosque is multifold:
1) To actually have the rainbow prancers make a /good/ point, that they do not deserve to be hurt or killed for liking sex the way they do
2) To force moslems in the West to show their colours - either they bow down before the rainbow-flag and accept that their religion may only be applied to the individual on that individual's free choice, or they show they put islam before our ways and therefore cannot be allowed here
3) It also - ideally - gets the supposedly more secular and modern moslems on our side against their more literal brethren, driving a wedge between "western" islam and home-land islam, breaking the control and choke-hold exerted by various organisations and states in the islamic world.
And 4) it demonstrates to westerners, no matter the outcome, what islam actually is when the moslems can not or need not hide their colours
All in all, a win/win - no lose situation, except for the ging-ho fundamentalists, and when those guys lose, everybody else wins.
See? I may be a horrible ogre, but ogres got layers. Like onions.
See my reply above re: the fact that everything you said about Islam also applies to a great many Christians, especially in the evangelical ranks. Beyond that, though, I'm confused at how and why so many people think that lgbt should support the alleged genocide of thousands of Palestinians because lgbt is against the majority religion, AND that lgbt should support the Israeli government regardless of the alleged corruption and indiscriminate killing of civilians because Israeli society is generally accepting of lgbt.
It's a bit of a stretch to say that I (a lesbian) shouldn't be upset about the killing and maiming of infants and children in Gazan refugee camps simply because a majority of Gazan adults are Muslim and some Muslims believe in killing homosexuals. It's also a pretty transactional view of humanity to assume we should only defend the lives of those who agree with or support us. At least some of us lgbs who disagree with the Israeli military/government are aware of the actions of extremists in Gaza against lgbs. We are also aware of actions against lbgs by social or religious extremists in the US and EU and UK and Oz. We are ALSO against the mass killing of civilians during military conflict, regardless of how those civilians may view us.
Singling Islam out as the only religion that is against lgbt, wants to convert or punish lgbts, and so on is pretty creative, but not exactly supported by history. And at least some of us lgbts actually don't screen everything and everyone we support through the lens of "what does this have to do with me being lgbt?" It seems there are some who do, but they don't represent us all.
The exact same can be said about Christians and their plans for all non Christians once they reclaim muhrika for Christianity. None shall be left alive is their stated goal. What do you think prompted the mass exodus from the only social media site claiming freedom of speech as their utmost held bylaw? That's why Gab is now a ghost town. Then again Christianity has embraced homosexuality in ways that most cannot fathom. Apologist is that I now call them.
Came to say that first sentence, but you beat me to it. Just try having a Pride Parade end at, say, the Westboro Baptist Church. I assume Rikard believes that their members should be deported since they refuse to "accept that their religion may only be applied to the individual on that individual's free choice".
> It's too bad the loonies don't accept that the Lunar Orbiter can take photos of the landing sites and that the tracks from the Lunar Vehicles are visible in those.
That's quite rational of them though. If they believe the whole lunar missions were faked, why woud they accept some mere photos as real? Especially since faking photos has been trivial, even before generative AI was a thing...
Proud looney here. Watch American Moon documentary on YouTube. Answer their questions and then I will accept your argument of visible tracks. Of course now you will immediately deflect and call it straight out of nonsense. That's how our doctors failed(?) us also just a few years ago.
Digital images are easy to fake. A 14 year old could draw a lunar lander on the moon. Pixel analysis has raised doubts about the dimensions of the alleged craft compared to the scale (it was either too big or too small to be authentic).
The images clearly show the shadow cast by the flag. But this is a problem because the flag would have been destroyed by micrometeorites and solar radiation within a year or two of being planted, as was the flag placed outside one of the Russian space stations in LEO.
The backbone of science is skepticism and falsifiability. In this respect the Apollo skeptics are way in the lead.
Yes - the interesting question here is how many people need to be "in the know" vs the number of people you can dupe in order to manipulate things?
I don't think a lot of doctors, for example, were deliberately fraudulent during covid, but *in effect* they were. They went along with the prevailing paradigms and a system that relies heavily on trust. Few doctors, for example, question vaccines, believing (like most people) in the "medical miracle" narrative when the truth is somewhat mixed.
With the current state of "medicine" in decline for decades i hesitate to give any of them a pass. The US has listed medical error as a leading cause of death annually for almost a decade. Infant mortality ranks very high (highest?) among the developed countries. Chemotherapy kills more than it saves. And our insurance costs are number one. This, combined with the lucrative bonuses they receive for injecting Big Pharma's poisons into newborns, children and everyone else leads me to believe they all turned a blind eye, to keep their jobs and worldly possessions. They all know dissent ends their careers. Yet they persist, even now, to poison us.
Awesome. You were on Corbett. I will check it out on Odysee. I’ve managed to eliminate YT from my digital diet. Entirely. For years now. One small success to build upon.
I don't have any significant doubts that it happened, but I do enjoy all the discussions and theories surrounding it. I generally love 'conspiracy theories' even though I don't really find many of them to be (ultimately) plausible.
Impossible, IMO. Could it land? Yes. Could it fire up, take off, and then hook up with the orbital portion, turn and head back to that round beautiful object we call Earth? No way.
Taking off from Cape Canaveral or Kennedy requires massive massive infrastructure. Massive. Huge thrust. A little moon lander taking off has none. It has to hook up with the orbiter. Then they have to spin around and push off again toward the Earth. Push off against what? How do they steer in space? You haven’t thought about this.
Have a spacecraft take off. Get past the Earth’s atmosphere, spin around and get back to Earth, then take off again. And getting off the moon’s surface is way tougher than that.
Yes, like that wonderful bar owner somewhere in Idaho, who sponsored "Straight Appreciation Month" (or week, not sure). He got LOTS of enthusiastic support, as well as the usual caterwauling from the alphabets!. Keep on, dude! Straight people, we are annoying...and we can MAKE LIFE! That is what sets us apart!
I want the straight sexual fetish day parades. Where housewife neighbours dress in leather and dominate their husbands on a float. They do it every day as it is, maybe not with leather. But dominate? Totally.
There are probably more sexual identities than there are days of the year. Ah ha! - they can then make two, or three identities celebrated each day ... and continuously change them, perhaps inventing new days - "Queering the calendar!" Judith Butler would be proud : )
About waving the rainbow flag - actually, if you wave the old-school, original, rainbow flag, it means you ARE a bigot. Even if you're Fred Sargeant, one of the original Stonewall activists for gay rights, who was assaulted at a Vermont pride event.
The old rainbow flag is a sign of bigotry now (or, a relief to see, especially if accompanied by an American flag and no "Progress Pride Flag" in sight, depending on one's frame of reference.)
Back when The Onion had, um, balls, this was a classic I always thought was so funny. Didn't know at the time how prophetic it was.
" . . . “I’d always thought gays were regular people, just like you and me, and that the stereotype of homosexuals as hedonistic, sex-crazed deviants was just a destructive myth,” said mother of four Hannah Jarrett, 41, mortified at the sight of 17 tanned and oiled boys cavorting in jock straps to a throbbing techno beat on a float shaped like an enormous phallus. “Boy, oh, boy, was I wrong.”
The parade, organized by the Los Angeles Gay And Lesbian And Bisexual And Transvestite And Transgender Alliance (LAGALABATATA), was intended to “promote acceptance, tolerance, and equality for the city’s gay community.” Just the opposite, however, was accomplished, as the event confirmed the worst fears of thousands of non-gay spectators, cementing in their minds a debauched and distorted image of gay life straight out of the most virulent right-wing hate literature. . . "
I own a NISSAN KICKS OR SHOULD I SAY DICKS. WTF IS WRONG WITH WESTERN SOCIETY. If I was Younger and spoke Russian I’d move to RUSSIA. At least they believe in MORAL VALUES. Not ABNORMAL VALUES.
It’s a shame we lost the technology to go back to the moon, that lunar buggy they had back in ‘69, folded smaller than anything on the market today, roamed around the moon for over a hour on batteries so small they folded up!
I have personal history with all this lgbt stuff from my youth long ago, was bisexual for a short time, had many gay men friends and one lesbian. They were just as rowdy as I was. What they were not was DEMANDING that all the world attend their party. Pride used to be a week or weekend, not an entire month. Now it is too much and I am glad to finally begin to see some pushback against this. It has become a bullying mob. I do not want to celebrate all this stuff and much of it is debauchery, plain and simple. I see it for what it is, as I myself was a participant long ago. I also watched my beloved gay men friends begin to die of HIV. It was not pretty when the party ended. I will take boring old heterosexuals any day....where life begins! (just ask Mom and Dad!).
The funny thing about 60s technology is that we DID have the technology to get to the Moon, but we did NOT have the technology to fake it. Weird, I know.
People these days are familiar with modern high speed computers, high data rate communications, and high speed video processing - the technogies NASA would need to ‘fake it’ - but those didn’t exist until the late 90s, more than 20 years after the last Apollo mission.
Otoh, the rocket technology that NASA and SpaceX use these days isn’t all that much different from the basic rocket designs of the 60s.
The picture at the end is enough to demonstrate that we are in "Clown world" but that is only if we indulge. My advice is to ignore these clowns completely. Carry on as if they don't exist. They crave our attention , that much is obvious so we should not entertain them. Ignore their show and it will disappear , really it will. Without the vast majority of people commenting ( as I'm guilty of now) it would have no traction.
If for example someone says that they want to be addressed as He, him,she it, they them, cat, etc etc you know immediately that they have an agenda of control over your speech at very least. In this instance you should cut them out of your life, ignore them completely, ghost them. They will only feed off your attention. Walk by them as if they are not there. Don't go to their shows, don't watch their programing in TV or movies. , Don't buy their magazines or news papers. Believe you me there are vastly more normal people than the hateful bitter clowns.
'Do what you like - provided you’re not harming someone - that’s all good with me. Stick your bits into whatsoever bits you so desire - no problems. But don’t expect me to enjoy or relish stuff I don’t, or to have to pretend that I do.'
From what I've seen, most people feel exactly this way. Yet if we're not enthusiastically on board, it means we are total bigots. Such are the depths cultural (and political) discourse has sunk to.
My pronouns is/are/were “Youareright-Iamwrong-here’s my $10,000 cash” (now don’t go flipping the you/I/my prounouns…say them to me exactly as scripted).
And my rainbow is G-d’s visual covenant to never again destroy humanity with a flood. Although I imagine he’s considered using any other non-flood method…
It's too bad the loonies don't accept that the Lunar Orbiter can take photos of the landing sites and that the tracks from the Lunar Vehicles are visible in those.
But each to their own psychosis I guess.
Funny the rental is named "Enterprise". It sure fits with Star Trek - to boldly go where no man has gone before. Probably needs changing to "where no ma'am has blobbed before".
We actually had to rent an EV once - all the real cars where already hired out. My experience? "Now I know how a Swiss Army Knife feels"
Ideally, a Pride-parade would be forced to end at a mosque. Just to, you know, prove a point or two. Some people do need to learn first hand what happens when you pour water into acid, so to speak.
The clash of ideology between 'woke' and (strict) Islam is often somewhat glossed over by those wishing to support LGB+ and defend Muslims against 'Islamophobia. The classic "Queers for Palestine" being one of the best examples of this wilful ignorance. Although Israel has been the most supportive of LGB+ stuff in the region with big Pride marches there and a mostly tolerant people and government, there have also been sporadic Pride events in other Middle Eastern countries.
Well, it's not "strict" anything, it is baseline and normal. Majority of moslems think that homosexuals are to be converted or killed.
The point of having LGBWTF marching to a mosque is multifold:
1) To actually have the rainbow prancers make a /good/ point, that they do not deserve to be hurt or killed for liking sex the way they do
2) To force moslems in the West to show their colours - either they bow down before the rainbow-flag and accept that their religion may only be applied to the individual on that individual's free choice, or they show they put islam before our ways and therefore cannot be allowed here
3) It also - ideally - gets the supposedly more secular and modern moslems on our side against their more literal brethren, driving a wedge between "western" islam and home-land islam, breaking the control and choke-hold exerted by various organisations and states in the islamic world.
And 4) it demonstrates to westerners, no matter the outcome, what islam actually is when the moslems can not or need not hide their colours
All in all, a win/win - no lose situation, except for the ging-ho fundamentalists, and when those guys lose, everybody else wins.
See? I may be a horrible ogre, but ogres got layers. Like onions.
See my reply above re: the fact that everything you said about Islam also applies to a great many Christians, especially in the evangelical ranks. Beyond that, though, I'm confused at how and why so many people think that lgbt should support the alleged genocide of thousands of Palestinians because lgbt is against the majority religion, AND that lgbt should support the Israeli government regardless of the alleged corruption and indiscriminate killing of civilians because Israeli society is generally accepting of lgbt.
It's a bit of a stretch to say that I (a lesbian) shouldn't be upset about the killing and maiming of infants and children in Gazan refugee camps simply because a majority of Gazan adults are Muslim and some Muslims believe in killing homosexuals. It's also a pretty transactional view of humanity to assume we should only defend the lives of those who agree with or support us. At least some of us lgbs who disagree with the Israeli military/government are aware of the actions of extremists in Gaza against lgbs. We are also aware of actions against lbgs by social or religious extremists in the US and EU and UK and Oz. We are ALSO against the mass killing of civilians during military conflict, regardless of how those civilians may view us.
Singling Islam out as the only religion that is against lgbt, wants to convert or punish lgbts, and so on is pretty creative, but not exactly supported by history. And at least some of us lgbts actually don't screen everything and everyone we support through the lens of "what does this have to do with me being lgbt?" It seems there are some who do, but they don't represent us all.
The exact same can be said about Christians and their plans for all non Christians once they reclaim muhrika for Christianity. None shall be left alive is their stated goal. What do you think prompted the mass exodus from the only social media site claiming freedom of speech as their utmost held bylaw? That's why Gab is now a ghost town. Then again Christianity has embraced homosexuality in ways that most cannot fathom. Apologist is that I now call them.
Came to say that first sentence, but you beat me to it. Just try having a Pride Parade end at, say, the Westboro Baptist Church. I assume Rikard believes that their members should be deported since they refuse to "accept that their religion may only be applied to the individual on that individual's free choice".
One of our (USA) astronauts started the company, Enterprise. Please don't ask me which one, as I can't remember off the top of my head.
P.S. I always have enjoyed pouring water into acid. Not a lot of either, just enough to cause the fizzing. Like an angry soda.
Brilliant - I wish I'd known about the moon landing/Enterprise connection before I'd written this!
> It's too bad the loonies don't accept that the Lunar Orbiter can take photos of the landing sites and that the tracks from the Lunar Vehicles are visible in those.
That's quite rational of them though. If they believe the whole lunar missions were faked, why woud they accept some mere photos as real? Especially since faking photos has been trivial, even before generative AI was a thing...
Proud looney here. Watch American Moon documentary on YouTube. Answer their questions and then I will accept your argument of visible tracks. Of course now you will immediately deflect and call it straight out of nonsense. That's how our doctors failed(?) us also just a few years ago.
Fine. They “faked” the first one. Why “fake” five more with rovers and experiments and tons more people to keep quiet?
Watch the documentary. They give a reasonable pitch why this all happened.
Digital images are easy to fake. A 14 year old could draw a lunar lander on the moon. Pixel analysis has raised doubts about the dimensions of the alleged craft compared to the scale (it was either too big or too small to be authentic).
The images clearly show the shadow cast by the flag. But this is a problem because the flag would have been destroyed by micrometeorites and solar radiation within a year or two of being planted, as was the flag placed outside one of the Russian space stations in LEO.
The backbone of science is skepticism and falsifiability. In this respect the Apollo skeptics are way in the lead.
Here’s another scam “that A LOT of people would have to be in on”
Does that make it any less real?
(h/t to @Etienne de la Boetie2 for the image)
Yes - the interesting question here is how many people need to be "in the know" vs the number of people you can dupe in order to manipulate things?
I don't think a lot of doctors, for example, were deliberately fraudulent during covid, but *in effect* they were. They went along with the prevailing paradigms and a system that relies heavily on trust. Few doctors, for example, question vaccines, believing (like most people) in the "medical miracle" narrative when the truth is somewhat mixed.
With the current state of "medicine" in decline for decades i hesitate to give any of them a pass. The US has listed medical error as a leading cause of death annually for almost a decade. Infant mortality ranks very high (highest?) among the developed countries. Chemotherapy kills more than it saves. And our insurance costs are number one. This, combined with the lucrative bonuses they receive for injecting Big Pharma's poisons into newborns, children and everyone else leads me to believe they all turned a blind eye, to keep their jobs and worldly possessions. They all know dissent ends their careers. Yet they persist, even now, to poison us.
What happens when doctors in a city/ country go on strike for a long time?
Death rate for few days spikes then declines to about ½ normal and stays there for a long time.
You can get the high res version at artofliberty.org/white-rose
Excellent Etienne - thanks for the link
Awesome. You were on Corbett. I will check it out on Odysee. I’ve managed to eliminate YT from my digital diet. Entirely. For years now. One small success to build upon.
Thanks!
Super horny bugger 🤣. Excellent piece!
Thanks Kat - much appreciated
Well, Rudolph, thanks for the info. Traveling around the U.S. and Canada I generally rent from Enterprise. I’m may have to rethink my choices.
So what is your assessment of the physical possibility of the Moon landing in the end?
I don't have any significant doubts that it happened, but I do enjoy all the discussions and theories surrounding it. I generally love 'conspiracy theories' even though I don't really find many of them to be (ultimately) plausible.
Space may be the final frontier but it's made in a Hollywood basement.
Impossible, IMO. Could it land? Yes. Could it fire up, take off, and then hook up with the orbital portion, turn and head back to that round beautiful object we call Earth? No way.
Taking off from Cape Canaveral or Kennedy requires massive massive infrastructure. Massive. Huge thrust. A little moon lander taking off has none. It has to hook up with the orbiter. Then they have to spin around and push off again toward the Earth. Push off against what? How do they steer in space? You haven’t thought about this.
Have a spacecraft take off. Get past the Earth’s atmosphere, spin around and get back to Earth, then take off again. And getting off the moon’s surface is way tougher than that.
In the end of what?
I’m still waiting for the straight flag. And parades. I just don’t feel included anymore. The alphabet people disappeared me!
Yes, like that wonderful bar owner somewhere in Idaho, who sponsored "Straight Appreciation Month" (or week, not sure). He got LOTS of enthusiastic support, as well as the usual caterwauling from the alphabets!. Keep on, dude! Straight people, we are annoying...and we can MAKE LIFE! That is what sets us apart!
I want the straight sexual fetish day parades. Where housewife neighbours dress in leather and dominate their husbands on a float. They do it every day as it is, maybe not with leather. But dominate? Totally.
https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/84/f3/48/84f34856b90ce9d4fd061a5de2df572f.jpg
Yessss sirr!
Und einmal, im Ferienlager...
Du hast die Flöte gespielt?
Sort of... oh boy, good old 90s.
There are probably more sexual identities than there are days of the year. Ah ha! - they can then make two, or three identities celebrated each day ... and continuously change them, perhaps inventing new days - "Queering the calendar!" Judith Butler would be proud : )
https://outfronttheatre.com/terms-to-know/
About waving the rainbow flag - actually, if you wave the old-school, original, rainbow flag, it means you ARE a bigot. Even if you're Fred Sargeant, one of the original Stonewall activists for gay rights, who was assaulted at a Vermont pride event.
The old rainbow flag is a sign of bigotry now (or, a relief to see, especially if accompanied by an American flag and no "Progress Pride Flag" in sight, depending on one's frame of reference.)
Back when The Onion had, um, balls, this was a classic I always thought was so funny. Didn't know at the time how prophetic it was.
https://theonion.com/gay-pride-parade-sets-mainstream-acceptance-of-gays-bac-1819566014/
" . . . “I’d always thought gays were regular people, just like you and me, and that the stereotype of homosexuals as hedonistic, sex-crazed deviants was just a destructive myth,” said mother of four Hannah Jarrett, 41, mortified at the sight of 17 tanned and oiled boys cavorting in jock straps to a throbbing techno beat on a float shaped like an enormous phallus. “Boy, oh, boy, was I wrong.”
The parade, organized by the Los Angeles Gay And Lesbian And Bisexual And Transvestite And Transgender Alliance (LAGALABATATA), was intended to “promote acceptance, tolerance, and equality for the city’s gay community.” Just the opposite, however, was accomplished, as the event confirmed the worst fears of thousands of non-gay spectators, cementing in their minds a debauched and distorted image of gay life straight out of the most virulent right-wing hate literature. . . "
I own a NISSAN KICKS OR SHOULD I SAY DICKS. WTF IS WRONG WITH WESTERN SOCIETY. If I was Younger and spoke Russian I’d move to RUSSIA. At least they believe in MORAL VALUES. Not ABNORMAL VALUES.
It’s a shame we lost the technology to go back to the moon, that lunar buggy they had back in ‘69, folded smaller than anything on the market today, roamed around the moon for over a hour on batteries so small they folded up!
I have personal history with all this lgbt stuff from my youth long ago, was bisexual for a short time, had many gay men friends and one lesbian. They were just as rowdy as I was. What they were not was DEMANDING that all the world attend their party. Pride used to be a week or weekend, not an entire month. Now it is too much and I am glad to finally begin to see some pushback against this. It has become a bullying mob. I do not want to celebrate all this stuff and much of it is debauchery, plain and simple. I see it for what it is, as I myself was a participant long ago. I also watched my beloved gay men friends begin to die of HIV. It was not pretty when the party ended. I will take boring old heterosexuals any day....where life begins! (just ask Mom and Dad!).
The funny thing about 60s technology is that we DID have the technology to get to the Moon, but we did NOT have the technology to fake it. Weird, I know.
People these days are familiar with modern high speed computers, high data rate communications, and high speed video processing - the technogies NASA would need to ‘fake it’ - but those didn’t exist until the late 90s, more than 20 years after the last Apollo mission.
Otoh, the rocket technology that NASA and SpaceX use these days isn’t all that much different from the basic rocket designs of the 60s.
The picture at the end is enough to demonstrate that we are in "Clown world" but that is only if we indulge. My advice is to ignore these clowns completely. Carry on as if they don't exist. They crave our attention , that much is obvious so we should not entertain them. Ignore their show and it will disappear , really it will. Without the vast majority of people commenting ( as I'm guilty of now) it would have no traction.
If for example someone says that they want to be addressed as He, him,she it, they them, cat, etc etc you know immediately that they have an agenda of control over your speech at very least. In this instance you should cut them out of your life, ignore them completely, ghost them. They will only feed off your attention. Walk by them as if they are not there. Don't go to their shows, don't watch their programing in TV or movies. , Don't buy their magazines or news papers. Believe you me there are vastly more normal people than the hateful bitter clowns.
Drag dudes are the most terrifying things on the planet. They straight up look like a demon. Has no one ever told them?
'Do what you like - provided you’re not harming someone - that’s all good with me. Stick your bits into whatsoever bits you so desire - no problems. But don’t expect me to enjoy or relish stuff I don’t, or to have to pretend that I do.'
From what I've seen, most people feel exactly this way. Yet if we're not enthusiastically on board, it means we are total bigots. Such are the depths cultural (and political) discourse has sunk to.
My pronouns is/are/were “Youareright-Iamwrong-here’s my $10,000 cash” (now don’t go flipping the you/I/my prounouns…say them to me exactly as scripted).
And my rainbow is G-d’s visual covenant to never again destroy humanity with a flood. Although I imagine he’s considered using any other non-flood method…
Just sayin’