Yes, Yes and Yes!! While I was always skeptical about the allopathic method of medicine and questioned their love of the “better health through chemistry” method of treatment I was not particularly an anti-vaccine supporter. However, the last three years of lies, propaganda and medical tyranny have pushed me squarely into the anti-vaccine camp. When I saw the “experts” on television tell people that staying six-feet from someone would keep you safe. Or wearing a thin piece of cloth across your face would keep you safe. And constant hand washing would keep you safe. That going to church was dangerous but liquor stores, casinos and strip clubs were deemed “essential” businesses. When rioting and protesting in the streets was perfectly acceptable but walking alone on the beach would get you arrested, I knew what little respect I had for the mainstream medical profession was lost. Forever. The damage done to the medical profession, the NIH/NHS, CDC, etc. can never be restored.
Find a good naturopath. Or Integrative Medicine practitioner. Or functional medicine doctor. And stock up on Ivermectin before they unleash the next Plandemic on us...I figure just in time for the 2024 election here in the states.
And if Bobby Kennedy, Jr did have the chance to debate Hotez the network would make millions of $$$ by doing it Pay-per-View. The world wants answers. And so far all we’ve gotten is lies.
The litany of lies promoted during covid was really quite extraordinary wasn't it?
I remember some (alleged) medical professionals writing some letter stating that racism was a more urgent and pressing health crisis than covid as a way to justify allowing the mostly peaceful protests whilst the actually peaceful praying in churches was deemed to be deadly dangerous.
Astonishing stuff really.
Find out where these professionals got their, erm, 'degrees' and under no circumstance send your son or daughter (or cat) there.
What I think was even more extraordinary were the millions and millions of people who not only believed the lies at the time they were being vomited at us every damn day…but still now, even in light of all the evidence that it was all lies form Day One, continue to buy and defend the bullshit. It makes my head hurt when I think of how the majority of the worlds population are stupid, fearful simpletons.
My compliance with vaccines prior to covid was laziness, no research plus I actually trusted our UK public health. I now regret all the vaccines I was encouraged to take and at best I hope they have been useless and not caused any future damage. What a difference 3 years make! I would now not allow anyone to inject me with a vaccine, there would have to be physical force involved.
Those for whom Vaccines are a religion— not a tool that may vary in effectiveness, safety, and necessity on a case-by-case basis— have long employed peer pressure (while making it very clear that they are not OUR peers, they are our superiors) rather than logic and data. Just talk to any parent who tried to have a nuanced discussion with her child’s pediatrician. Their m.o. is to pretend to listen to your concerns, but then assert their authority and “everybody else is doing it”. Everybody they manage to pressure into doing something they were uncomfortable with walks away feeling dirty and regretful, not because all vaccines are necessarily the wrong choice, but because they ended up submitting for the wrong reasons.
However, this worked for them for a long time because it was done one-on-one, in exam rooms, out of public scrutiny. Even if they could send their best guy in for the debate— not Hotez— they evidently still wouldn’t. Their stubbornness— more than RFK Jr’s often-right, sometimes-wrong assertions— is what is most responsible for “vaccine hesitancy” and apparent record rates of “missed” vaccines.
The pressure to get vaccinated was intense and unconscionable.
My current position on vaccines is that some might be good - vaccination is a cool idea, after all - but others will be much less than ideal. And there will be some, like the covid 'vaccines' that appear to confer no benefit (or even negative benefit) and are bloody dangerous (in comparison to other vaccines).
The problem with losing trust is that it becomes a lot harder to figure out the 'good' from the 'bad'. Some medicines and medical practices are probably brilliant and life-saving - but others seem like just an excuse to ramp up the profits of Pharma. When you can no longer trust the 'experts' to give you accurate and honest information, how are we going to navigate this minefield?
Me, too. I trusted the vaccine narrative and not RFKjr for 65 years. I cannot exaggerate how thoroughly the "experts" appearing in the media for 3 years have demolished that trust. Each of us has our own origin story for when their personal nuke exploded. Mine came in roughly August, 2021 when they said, to paraphrase, "oops, that shot didn't work, here's my handy-dandy booster". It continues to amaze me that some large fraction of the population still hasn't seen the gamma ray flash. Hotez himself causes extreme cognitive dissonance in me because he wears a lab coat with Texas Children's Hospital insignia and I took my own child there for life saving treatment decades ago, as did others I knew. If I met a young parent today making a choice similar to mine back then, I have no idea who I would tell them to trust. When the local pediatrician forwarded my child's chart to Texas Children's back then, and I got a call from there and the good doctor advised me, "you need to bring your child to see me right away" I complied and remain satisfied today that was the correct choice at the time. What could I possibly do today?
They've messed up really badly and trust is a really hard thing, if not almost impossible, to recover once lost.
Just on the issue of masks, for example, these are people we (used to) trust to be on top of all the current medical evidence - yet hospitals in particular went all mask Nazi, flying in the face of all of the available evidence before, during and after covid. If they can be this wrong on something so simple as masks, what else do they get wrong?
I'm not sure I fully agree with his conclusions - I think there would have been some excess death. There was, after all, a virus going round that did lead to a suite of relatively unusual symptoms that doctors were a bit confused about how best to treat. Early on in the 'pandemic' doctors were stating that they weren't sure whether covid was a respiratory infection or more of an infection of the vascular system, for example. My brother had a long chat with his doctor when he was whisked off to hospital because of covid complications and the doctor expressed similar concerns about the unusual range and severity of symptoms that he was seeing.
Was the doctor just trotting out the 'party line' or just lying? I doubt it - but it's clear that many did get swept up in the craze and forgot to apply their critical thinking skills.
I've seen really neat scanning electron microscope images of the things (see, for example, https://miro.medium.com/max/1280/0*Vh_ugS7834K6WOoZ.gif) and fragments of their DNA has been shown to make up a significant part of the human (and other life forms') genome. Difficult to ignore, given the evidence of their existence.
If you had studied everything I have on those “ artifacts” in electron microscope images you would understand what exactly you are looking at and how they have been utterly misrepresented. Secondly the DNA fragments are also not attributable to viruses and in fact the majority of sequences are computer generated and do not exist in any real life situation. I totally understand your current reality. However it takes time to study the claims and the “evidence” and the outright fraud in order to understand what you are really working with. Like I said it’s akin to subjects like non existent dark matter and black holes which are bought into on mass with zero actual evidence and utterly meaningless maths. I’m not here to do the work for you... but I’ve done so much that I have reached “ certainty” on my position. I offered to point people’s in the direction of qualified people if anyone is sincere in exploring the subject. A Nobel prize winning virologist is now firmly in the no virus camp but there are plenty more who do surgical precision analysis of all the papers and often flimsy or fraudulent claims from the 50s and 60’s that still form the bedrock of much of virology myth that masquerades as “evidence “. You of course can do as you wish, it’s a semi free country. 🤠🖖🏼
Thanks. That's quite a remarkably well-organized and complex artifact in the linked image, isn't it? What's the name of the Nobel prize-winning virologist you mention? Seems like reading his stuff might be a good place to start looking into what led you to your perspective re: viri. It would be a shame, I think, if they aren't really there, as I personally liked the idea of genetic 'cross-fertilization' between widely-varying species. What do you think, for example, of biologists' belief that different plant species (not to mention bacterial species) pass, and have passed, genetic material back and forth over time to create environmentally more fit organisms? Also, does this skepticism about microbiological theory also extend to the theory of the bacterial origin of cellular mitochondria (which also show up very clearly and consistently in electron microscope imagery). Thanks again.
Hi Larry, my email in info@dragonpowerpromo.com if you would like to continue this conversation. It could become very long winded as a thread here on Rudolphs Conversation.
Are you suggesting that the field of electron microscopy is flawed, but only when it comes to interpreting micrographs of viruses, or that this error in interpretation extends to micrographs of other things?
As you know, I'm not going to agree with the position that there are no viruses - the evidence is really quite extensive and well-supported with electron microscopy being only one strand in a whole tapestry.
It's a useful discussion to have, though, because it's never a bad thing to re-visit the fundamentals of a subject every once in a while.
Haha - I haven't heard that one - but it's 'typical' Dirac.
He was once asked in an interview with a reporter whether he could explain his theories to people in high school. Dirac just said "no" and left it at that. The interviewer got increasingly desperate and tried to get at least some personal tidbits - "do you go to the movies?" he asked.
"Yes - I went once in 1924 and again in 1932" was the reply (not sure of the exact dates Dirac mentioned)
Today, Dirac would have been diganosed with some alphabet-diagnosis or other and put on medication.
I wonder how many prospective Newtons et al we neuter intellecutally thanks to our more and more degenerate school system.
Nuking Africa wouldn't alleviate anything. (For starters, we'd need at minimum one magnitude more warheads to achive much of any kind of lasting impact.) Yeah I get it's not meant literally, but I'm on a Pratchett-binge right now and literalness-for-effect the way he used it is rubbing off on me.
Pratchett, peanuts, mix-tape with NWOBHM and home-made wine from Fireweed-flowers, I love Summer.
I think it is interesting to see the process that takes a trusting non questioning person who is willing to let the "experts" do their thinking for them, to the post covid ...position of I don't believe a word of the narrative about vaccines. In fact for many it has been the first time in their lives that they actually questioned any "Authority". These same people also joined in on the name calling and utter dismissal of those Doctors and other professionals who pointed to the causative links with vaccines and a whole number of exponentially increasing illnesses and conditions such as Autism. The "Conspiracy Theory nut jobs" Who dared to step away from the herd think and instep main stream narrative were ridiculed not only by the powers that be ( The vested interest groups) but also run out of town and fired from careers.
I was one of the "Tin foil hat wearing conspiracists" since around 1998 when I first subscribed to Nexas Magazine and also started manufacturing Colloidal Silver Generators and Frequency healing devices and selling thousands of them to main stream doctors and alternative medicine practitioners.
Now I am recently, and very firmly in another camp, that I believe anyone with a will to take the time and study the "Science" or distinct lack of it as it turns out, of Virology, will eventually with an open minded approach reach the same conclusion.......it's all horse shit, to sell the biggest most extensive pile of snake oil in the history of mankind.
The conclusion of this study and understanding is that like the Spoon in the Matrix....there is no virus.
I began my journey in 1998 and hence was decades ahead of most of you, so that when Covid was invented, and the Plandemic was rolled out according to the exact plan outlined during "Event 201" which I am guessing almost none of you knew anything about and most still do not, I was, along with my fellow " Conspiracy" Pals, on to them from day one. At first a lonely place....but through my immediate actions I managed to pursued my entire family and many friends not to take the clot shot and to eventually become activists themselves.
Now being in the " It's all the "Emperors cloths" camp when it comes to viruses and their lack of reality, I imagine I am again in the lonely position once more of being right, amongst a sea of people who admire the fabric and the pretty colours of the Emperors latest fashion show. Anyone interested in starting the journey on a road to scientific discovery on the subject of virology, let me know, I am happy to point you in the direction of very much more knowledgeable people than myself. I will finish by saying very clearly... there are no viruses. Maybe those who can not even comprehend the idea and do not want to even entertain it, might remember in a few decades that they heard it from some nut a long time ago.
I think it's right to be sceptical about the claims made about vaccines - but where do we stop in this process of questioning?
It's always important to question the fundamentals of any discipline - but to **reject** everything because they got one thing wrong? I'm not sure that's an entirely rational position either.
On the other hand, if we can see evidence of real duplicity (like with some of the covid stuff) then I think we **have** to question other things more closely. If they can lie and obfuscate on this, what else have they lied to us about?
Rudolph you ask "where do we stop in the process of questioning?" The answer is really as far as scientific inquiry goes....Never. Of Course. If we stopped with the science of 70 years ago in most or many of the fields of human endeavour we know that would be a mistake. Virologists use a method to "Isolate" claimed viral material called Cell Culturing..... this practice does not follow the scientific method. I will not go further here on that subject but could send you lots of data on it. Once you see that ZERO proven viral particles have ever been isolated the whole Trillion dollar house of cards collapses. NONE of this is my lay opinion. You have my email. Use a google mail address if you wish to remain anonymous. One very interesting Group of Doctors is fronted by this lady and this video on Lyme Disease will begin to show you the problems with the claims... ( this video is just a taste of how bad the science is in the industry.) She is also pretty so its easy watching ( Sexist) ... but the NZ accent is pretty thick. (Racist) https://drsambailey.substack.com/p/the-lyme-disease-lie?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#play
Yes, Yes and Yes!! While I was always skeptical about the allopathic method of medicine and questioned their love of the “better health through chemistry” method of treatment I was not particularly an anti-vaccine supporter. However, the last three years of lies, propaganda and medical tyranny have pushed me squarely into the anti-vaccine camp. When I saw the “experts” on television tell people that staying six-feet from someone would keep you safe. Or wearing a thin piece of cloth across your face would keep you safe. And constant hand washing would keep you safe. That going to church was dangerous but liquor stores, casinos and strip clubs were deemed “essential” businesses. When rioting and protesting in the streets was perfectly acceptable but walking alone on the beach would get you arrested, I knew what little respect I had for the mainstream medical profession was lost. Forever. The damage done to the medical profession, the NIH/NHS, CDC, etc. can never be restored.
Find a good naturopath. Or Integrative Medicine practitioner. Or functional medicine doctor. And stock up on Ivermectin before they unleash the next Plandemic on us...I figure just in time for the 2024 election here in the states.
And if Bobby Kennedy, Jr did have the chance to debate Hotez the network would make millions of $$$ by doing it Pay-per-View. The world wants answers. And so far all we’ve gotten is lies.
The litany of lies promoted during covid was really quite extraordinary wasn't it?
I remember some (alleged) medical professionals writing some letter stating that racism was a more urgent and pressing health crisis than covid as a way to justify allowing the mostly peaceful protests whilst the actually peaceful praying in churches was deemed to be deadly dangerous.
Astonishing stuff really.
Find out where these professionals got their, erm, 'degrees' and under no circumstance send your son or daughter (or cat) there.
What I think was even more extraordinary were the millions and millions of people who not only believed the lies at the time they were being vomited at us every damn day…but still now, even in light of all the evidence that it was all lies form Day One, continue to buy and defend the bullshit. It makes my head hurt when I think of how the majority of the worlds population are stupid, fearful simpletons.
My compliance with vaccines prior to covid was laziness, no research plus I actually trusted our UK public health. I now regret all the vaccines I was encouraged to take and at best I hope they have been useless and not caused any future damage. What a difference 3 years make! I would now not allow anyone to inject me with a vaccine, there would have to be physical force involved.
I believe there are millions of people worldwide, who feel exactly the same as you.
Those for whom Vaccines are a religion— not a tool that may vary in effectiveness, safety, and necessity on a case-by-case basis— have long employed peer pressure (while making it very clear that they are not OUR peers, they are our superiors) rather than logic and data. Just talk to any parent who tried to have a nuanced discussion with her child’s pediatrician. Their m.o. is to pretend to listen to your concerns, but then assert their authority and “everybody else is doing it”. Everybody they manage to pressure into doing something they were uncomfortable with walks away feeling dirty and regretful, not because all vaccines are necessarily the wrong choice, but because they ended up submitting for the wrong reasons.
However, this worked for them for a long time because it was done one-on-one, in exam rooms, out of public scrutiny. Even if they could send their best guy in for the debate— not Hotez— they evidently still wouldn’t. Their stubbornness— more than RFK Jr’s often-right, sometimes-wrong assertions— is what is most responsible for “vaccine hesitancy” and apparent record rates of “missed” vaccines.
The pressure to get vaccinated was intense and unconscionable.
My current position on vaccines is that some might be good - vaccination is a cool idea, after all - but others will be much less than ideal. And there will be some, like the covid 'vaccines' that appear to confer no benefit (or even negative benefit) and are bloody dangerous (in comparison to other vaccines).
The problem with losing trust is that it becomes a lot harder to figure out the 'good' from the 'bad'. Some medicines and medical practices are probably brilliant and life-saving - but others seem like just an excuse to ramp up the profits of Pharma. When you can no longer trust the 'experts' to give you accurate and honest information, how are we going to navigate this minefield?
Me, too. I trusted the vaccine narrative and not RFKjr for 65 years. I cannot exaggerate how thoroughly the "experts" appearing in the media for 3 years have demolished that trust. Each of us has our own origin story for when their personal nuke exploded. Mine came in roughly August, 2021 when they said, to paraphrase, "oops, that shot didn't work, here's my handy-dandy booster". It continues to amaze me that some large fraction of the population still hasn't seen the gamma ray flash. Hotez himself causes extreme cognitive dissonance in me because he wears a lab coat with Texas Children's Hospital insignia and I took my own child there for life saving treatment decades ago, as did others I knew. If I met a young parent today making a choice similar to mine back then, I have no idea who I would tell them to trust. When the local pediatrician forwarded my child's chart to Texas Children's back then, and I got a call from there and the good doctor advised me, "you need to bring your child to see me right away" I complied and remain satisfied today that was the correct choice at the time. What could I possibly do today?
They've messed up really badly and trust is a really hard thing, if not almost impossible, to recover once lost.
Just on the issue of masks, for example, these are people we (used to) trust to be on top of all the current medical evidence - yet hospitals in particular went all mask Nazi, flying in the face of all of the available evidence before, during and after covid. If they can be this wrong on something so simple as masks, what else do they get wrong?
Exactly!! How can we possibly trust them on other important and serious issues when they fucked to
so badly on the simple ones.
Rudolph -- have you heard of this guy, Denis Rancourt? See https://denisrancourt.ca/page.php?id=1&name=home He's another academic/applied physicist (Canadian) and has researched, and written on, the matter of The COVID. His chief conclusion (https://denisrancourt.ca/entries.php?id=130&name=2023_06_22_there_was_no_pandemic_essay) is that -- except for human interference -- there would have been no excess mortality as a result of the pesky virus. Note that he's also researched and written about The Climate Change 'issue'...
Yes I'm aware of Denis Rancourt's work.
I'm not sure I fully agree with his conclusions - I think there would have been some excess death. There was, after all, a virus going round that did lead to a suite of relatively unusual symptoms that doctors were a bit confused about how best to treat. Early on in the 'pandemic' doctors were stating that they weren't sure whether covid was a respiratory infection or more of an infection of the vascular system, for example. My brother had a long chat with his doctor when he was whisked off to hospital because of covid complications and the doctor expressed similar concerns about the unusual range and severity of symptoms that he was seeing.
Was the doctor just trotting out the 'party line' or just lying? I doubt it - but it's clear that many did get swept up in the craze and forgot to apply their critical thinking skills.
There are no viruses.
I've seen really neat scanning electron microscope images of the things (see, for example, https://miro.medium.com/max/1280/0*Vh_ugS7834K6WOoZ.gif) and fragments of their DNA has been shown to make up a significant part of the human (and other life forms') genome. Difficult to ignore, given the evidence of their existence.
If you had studied everything I have on those “ artifacts” in electron microscope images you would understand what exactly you are looking at and how they have been utterly misrepresented. Secondly the DNA fragments are also not attributable to viruses and in fact the majority of sequences are computer generated and do not exist in any real life situation. I totally understand your current reality. However it takes time to study the claims and the “evidence” and the outright fraud in order to understand what you are really working with. Like I said it’s akin to subjects like non existent dark matter and black holes which are bought into on mass with zero actual evidence and utterly meaningless maths. I’m not here to do the work for you... but I’ve done so much that I have reached “ certainty” on my position. I offered to point people’s in the direction of qualified people if anyone is sincere in exploring the subject. A Nobel prize winning virologist is now firmly in the no virus camp but there are plenty more who do surgical precision analysis of all the papers and often flimsy or fraudulent claims from the 50s and 60’s that still form the bedrock of much of virology myth that masquerades as “evidence “. You of course can do as you wish, it’s a semi free country. 🤠🖖🏼
Thanks. That's quite a remarkably well-organized and complex artifact in the linked image, isn't it? What's the name of the Nobel prize-winning virologist you mention? Seems like reading his stuff might be a good place to start looking into what led you to your perspective re: viri. It would be a shame, I think, if they aren't really there, as I personally liked the idea of genetic 'cross-fertilization' between widely-varying species. What do you think, for example, of biologists' belief that different plant species (not to mention bacterial species) pass, and have passed, genetic material back and forth over time to create environmentally more fit organisms? Also, does this skepticism about microbiological theory also extend to the theory of the bacterial origin of cellular mitochondria (which also show up very clearly and consistently in electron microscope imagery). Thanks again.
Hi Larry, my email in info@dragonpowerpromo.com if you would like to continue this conversation. It could become very long winded as a thread here on Rudolphs Conversation.
I'm all for it - post and 'derail' as you wish.
I, too, would like to know the name of this Nobel virologist who now rejects the fundamentals of his own field.
Thanks, Ian.
Are you suggesting that the field of electron microscopy is flawed, but only when it comes to interpreting micrographs of viruses, or that this error in interpretation extends to micrographs of other things?
As you know, I'm not going to agree with the position that there are no viruses - the evidence is really quite extensive and well-supported with electron microscopy being only one strand in a whole tapestry.
It's a useful discussion to have, though, because it's never a bad thing to re-visit the fundamentals of a subject every once in a while.
Student to Dirac at formal hall: "I have a bet with a friend that I can get three words out of you!"
Dirac to student: "You lose".
Haha - I haven't heard that one - but it's 'typical' Dirac.
He was once asked in an interview with a reporter whether he could explain his theories to people in high school. Dirac just said "no" and left it at that. The interviewer got increasingly desperate and tried to get at least some personal tidbits - "do you go to the movies?" he asked.
"Yes - I went once in 1924 and again in 1932" was the reply (not sure of the exact dates Dirac mentioned)
Very good. I suspect my 'you lose' anecdote is modestly apocryphal (c.f. "mildly exponential")!
Some archive-able lines here, eg, Politics is all about performance and perception, and almost nothing to do with ‘truth’.
https://open.substack.com/pub/interestofjustice/p/deep-reform-rfk-jr-to-host-health?r=h55li&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
Today, Dirac would have been diganosed with some alphabet-diagnosis or other and put on medication.
I wonder how many prospective Newtons et al we neuter intellecutally thanks to our more and more degenerate school system.
Nuking Africa wouldn't alleviate anything. (For starters, we'd need at minimum one magnitude more warheads to achive much of any kind of lasting impact.) Yeah I get it's not meant literally, but I'm on a Pratchett-binge right now and literalness-for-effect the way he used it is rubbing off on me.
Pratchett, peanuts, mix-tape with NWOBHM and home-made wine from Fireweed-flowers, I love Summer.
I think it is interesting to see the process that takes a trusting non questioning person who is willing to let the "experts" do their thinking for them, to the post covid ...position of I don't believe a word of the narrative about vaccines. In fact for many it has been the first time in their lives that they actually questioned any "Authority". These same people also joined in on the name calling and utter dismissal of those Doctors and other professionals who pointed to the causative links with vaccines and a whole number of exponentially increasing illnesses and conditions such as Autism. The "Conspiracy Theory nut jobs" Who dared to step away from the herd think and instep main stream narrative were ridiculed not only by the powers that be ( The vested interest groups) but also run out of town and fired from careers.
I was one of the "Tin foil hat wearing conspiracists" since around 1998 when I first subscribed to Nexas Magazine and also started manufacturing Colloidal Silver Generators and Frequency healing devices and selling thousands of them to main stream doctors and alternative medicine practitioners.
Now I am recently, and very firmly in another camp, that I believe anyone with a will to take the time and study the "Science" or distinct lack of it as it turns out, of Virology, will eventually with an open minded approach reach the same conclusion.......it's all horse shit, to sell the biggest most extensive pile of snake oil in the history of mankind.
The conclusion of this study and understanding is that like the Spoon in the Matrix....there is no virus.
I began my journey in 1998 and hence was decades ahead of most of you, so that when Covid was invented, and the Plandemic was rolled out according to the exact plan outlined during "Event 201" which I am guessing almost none of you knew anything about and most still do not, I was, along with my fellow " Conspiracy" Pals, on to them from day one. At first a lonely place....but through my immediate actions I managed to pursued my entire family and many friends not to take the clot shot and to eventually become activists themselves.
Now being in the " It's all the "Emperors cloths" camp when it comes to viruses and their lack of reality, I imagine I am again in the lonely position once more of being right, amongst a sea of people who admire the fabric and the pretty colours of the Emperors latest fashion show. Anyone interested in starting the journey on a road to scientific discovery on the subject of virology, let me know, I am happy to point you in the direction of very much more knowledgeable people than myself. I will finish by saying very clearly... there are no viruses. Maybe those who can not even comprehend the idea and do not want to even entertain it, might remember in a few decades that they heard it from some nut a long time ago.
I think it's right to be sceptical about the claims made about vaccines - but where do we stop in this process of questioning?
It's always important to question the fundamentals of any discipline - but to **reject** everything because they got one thing wrong? I'm not sure that's an entirely rational position either.
On the other hand, if we can see evidence of real duplicity (like with some of the covid stuff) then I think we **have** to question other things more closely. If they can lie and obfuscate on this, what else have they lied to us about?
https://www.regjeringen.no/no/dokumenter/horing-om-koronasertifikat-endringer-i-smittevernloven/id2847796/Download/?vedleggId=03c4fc8f-c8f1-49c7-b176-07edebd0db06
You may find this of interest. https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/30/peter-flegg-grossly-misrepresented-stefan-lanka-out-context
Rudolph you ask "where do we stop in the process of questioning?" The answer is really as far as scientific inquiry goes....Never. Of Course. If we stopped with the science of 70 years ago in most or many of the fields of human endeavour we know that would be a mistake. Virologists use a method to "Isolate" claimed viral material called Cell Culturing..... this practice does not follow the scientific method. I will not go further here on that subject but could send you lots of data on it. Once you see that ZERO proven viral particles have ever been isolated the whole Trillion dollar house of cards collapses. NONE of this is my lay opinion. You have my email. Use a google mail address if you wish to remain anonymous. One very interesting Group of Doctors is fronted by this lady and this video on Lyme Disease will begin to show you the problems with the claims... ( this video is just a taste of how bad the science is in the industry.) She is also pretty so its easy watching ( Sexist) ... but the NZ accent is pretty thick. (Racist) https://drsambailey.substack.com/p/the-lyme-disease-lie?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#play
https://open.substack.com/pub/christinemasseyfois/p/virus-fois-cdc-uk-apha-derrick-broze?r=9xthg&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post